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View Poll Results: Should we raise the debt ceiling
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Sure it's no big deal
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NO, cut the ****ing spending, we have enouh income, we simply spend to much.
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07-12-2011, 01:23 AM
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Debt ceiling
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07-12-2011, 01:28 AM
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Valar Morghulis
Join Date: Jul 2004
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Bang up choices there bob.
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07-12-2011, 01:28 AM
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Bizarro World
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: good ol' So Cal
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raise da ruf
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07-12-2011, 01:33 AM
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Krampus
Join Date: Jan 2010
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^rofl Ily carl.
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07-12-2011, 01:39 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Concord NH
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I agree with this guy:
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07-12-2011, 01:54 AM
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BonusBalled!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Swerve22
I agree with this guy:
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He realizes he's in that "Leadership" role right? 
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07-12-2011, 02:17 AM
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So, I just think we need to stop paying all those obligations entirely so we can see the world economy collapse
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07-12-2011, 03:04 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Concord NH
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ColdBlood
So, I just think we need to stop paying all those obligations entirely so we can see the world economy collapse
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Protip: Payment of obligations is constitutionally mandated - they get paid first before other spending. In dummy terms that means Barry is lying to you when he acts like the world will end if the debt ceiling doesn't get raised. |
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07-12-2011, 03:07 AM
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Krampus
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: None of your business
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Protip: posting a macro isn't making a point
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"If we were to apply the unmodified, uncurbed, rules of the micro-cosmos (i.e., of the small band or troop, or of, say, our families) to the macro-cosmos (our wider civilization), as our instincts and sentimental yearnings often make us wish to do, we would destroy it. Yet if we were always to apply the rules of the extended order to our more intimate groupings, we would crush them. So we must learn to live in two sorts of worlds at once."
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Friedrich Hayek
"As for me, I will punch anyone who calls me a conservative in the nose. I am a radical."
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07-15-2011, 01:25 PM
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Urban Warfare
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Swerve22
Protip: Payment of obligations is constitutionally mandated - they get paid first before other spending. In dummy terms that means Barry is lying to you when he acts like the world will end if the debt ceiling doesn't get raised.
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Yes but where the money goes first and who gets paid first is a discussion this nation has never had to make before. Our credit rating and currency would devalue quickly, and discussions could lead to if the American dollar should still be the world's backed currency. It's a situation that I think the president and most Americans would want to avoid, if we can. Although there are some on the right who would do as you claim: make short term payments now to those who constitutionally are obligated to it, while shirking those who are not. |
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07-15-2011, 03:00 PM
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lapping your tears
Join Date: Jun 2004
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Guys, raising the debt limit is too disastrous. Defaulting and lowering our federal credit ratings is the only positive outcome.
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07-15-2011, 03:32 PM
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secedere
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: FL/GA border
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AlphaNeo36
Guys, raising the debt limit is too disastrous. Defaulting and lowering our federal credit ratings is the only positive outcome.
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Reread your 14th amendment. |
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07-15-2011, 05:25 PM
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Bizarro World
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: good ol' So Cal
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...and?
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07-15-2011, 05:30 PM
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Romo Never Stops Smiling
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Raise away who gives a ****
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07-15-2011, 05:36 PM
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Bizarro World
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: good ol' So Cal
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0 ****s given
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07-15-2011, 06:18 PM
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Krampus
Join Date: Jan 2010
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Too bad it won't do anything to fix the economy.
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"If we were to apply the unmodified, uncurbed, rules of the micro-cosmos (i.e., of the small band or troop, or of, say, our families) to the macro-cosmos (our wider civilization), as our instincts and sentimental yearnings often make us wish to do, we would destroy it. Yet if we were always to apply the rules of the extended order to our more intimate groupings, we would crush them. So we must learn to live in two sorts of worlds at once."
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Friedrich Hayek
"As for me, I will punch anyone who calls me a conservative in the nose. I am a radical."
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Frank Chodorov
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07-15-2011, 07:44 PM
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Bizarro World
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: good ol' So Cal
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It won't make it worse.
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07-15-2011, 08:14 PM
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Krampus
Join Date: Jan 2010
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Given the BS advertised as spending cuts, and the likely tax increases, I disagree.
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"If we were to apply the unmodified, uncurbed, rules of the micro-cosmos (i.e., of the small band or troop, or of, say, our families) to the macro-cosmos (our wider civilization), as our instincts and sentimental yearnings often make us wish to do, we would destroy it. Yet if we were always to apply the rules of the extended order to our more intimate groupings, we would crush them. So we must learn to live in two sorts of worlds at once."
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Friedrich Hayek
"As for me, I will punch anyone who calls me a conservative in the nose. I am a radical."
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Frank Chodorov
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07-15-2011, 08:40 PM
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Bizarro World
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: good ol' So Cal
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expansionary austerity 
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07-15-2011, 09:52 PM
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Krampus
Join Date: Jan 2010
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What? Define your words, or learn up about how useless fiscal stimulus is.
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Friedrich Hayek
"As for me, I will punch anyone who calls me a conservative in the nose. I am a radical."
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Frank Chodorov
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07-15-2011, 10:05 PM
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Bizarro World
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: good ol' So Cal
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When up against the zero lower bound its pretty effective
http://www.kellogg.northwestern.edu/...multiplier.pdf
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