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Old 05-19-2011, 01:59 PM #1
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Multiple HPA tanks

Is there a way to hook together and carry 2 HPA tanks to feed one marker?
Like 2 48/3000 ganged together.

I know I could just buy a bigger tank, but I already have 3 48's.
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Old 05-19-2011, 04:58 PM #2
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Yup. I just did this at EMR castle. I mounted one 4500 tank on my marker, then wore another 4500 on my back with the remote line running to the fill nipple of the tank on my marker. Shazaam: 136/4500. We defended flat out for 2 hours, and I only had to refill once while shooting about 1 1/2 cases of paint.

Of course this should only be done with two air tanks of the same pressure rating. No idea how Co2 would behave...

ymmv. If you blow yourself in half somehow, I'd appreciate it if neither piece of you filed a lawsuit.
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Old 05-20-2011, 05:41 AM #3
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Thanks. That makes sense and is a lot simpler than I was thinking.

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Old 05-20-2011, 06:20 AM #4
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If you blow yourself in half somehow, I'd appreciate it if neither piece of you filed a lawsuit.
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Old 05-20-2011, 10:10 AM #5
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Get a 19 cubic feet scuba tank. They are called pony bottles. Then you get your self a scuba refill station. Mount that on top of your scuba tank, place a regulater on the scuba fill fill station. Last attach your remote line to your regulater. A 19 cubic bottle should last you over 5000 shots easily.

PS You wont blow your self up.
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Old 05-20-2011, 10:45 PM #6
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Check with oregonpaintball.com, they made a few of these and might still have some for sale.
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Old 05-21-2011, 06:35 AM #7
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That was what I had in mind originally. Will check them out. Thanks.
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Old 05-21-2011, 12:09 PM #8
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Your local hardware store sells BRASS 90 degree and T fittings in the plumbing department that is see REGULARLY used just like in the picture above. Don't know their actual pressure rating but they work without incident. They are the 1/8 NPT thread fitting that is the same as paintball hoses, asa, and remote hoses used in paintball.


Stay away from the galvanized plumbing fittings as I know they are rated 300 psi only.

You shouldn't have any trouble finding a paintball 90 degree fitting. Stay away from Macroline and their fittings as they are chronic leakers in my opinion. Used the braided stainless steel paintball hoses and use with BLUE Loctite. You will never have a leak.

In the picture above, he used TWO remote hose fittings with the screw in type of on/off valve.

Now you CAN have tank problems that you don't want to have that will take you out of play. You might want to consider being able to ISOLATE each tank and not play with it or even have it taken off for repairs and not ruin your weekend..

You could blow a burst disk out of one tank during a refil. A reg could fail and start leaking air. You would want to remove the tanks quickly and easily for air fills, o-ring replacment, burst disk replacement, without being out of the game.. The tank reg could just STOP working and you would be out of play if you don't plan ahead.

I would use a bottomline ASA off a marker to go onto the tank. Lots of those cheap and available used in the drawers at your local paintball store left over from the drop forward upgrades. They also have convenient holes drilled in them to fix them on a mounting board if you want. However, if you unscrew ONE tank, the other tank will vent out through the OPEN ASA.

A ball valve would address that problem. Here is a link: 1000 psi rated $15.

http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/Two...ML2?Pid=search

Actually, you could just put one of these between each tank and the T fitting and isolate either tank and remove it if you wanted too. Cheaper than buying 2-3 remote hoses just for the fittings...

I would be inclined to go that way in terms of playability and cost to set it up.
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Is it just me or does he have an extremely skewed ratio of available air to paint?
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Old 05-22-2011, 11:08 AM #10
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Thanks BM, I think I'll give it a try.

Good eye Steve. He must shoot OP's. (other peoples)
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Old 05-31-2011, 08:57 PM #11
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I have a BT Merc vest with dual tank setup. Then just get a on/off valve from a remote, then run a steel braided hose to another remote valve. I can carry 17-34 pods depending on what holders I go with on my vest, along with dual 68s and large utility pouch.
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Old 06-24-2011, 08:38 PM #13
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Ever since I posted above about daisy-chaining two tanks together, I've been having second thoughts. It did work, but I'm not sure I understand why it worked.

What I was doing was feeding the output of the regulator on one tank into the fill of the other tank. IIRC, the gauges eventually stabilized around 800PSi or so, but I was definately able to shoot much more paint than I usually could on just one tank.

I was running an SP-1 with a Virtue board, so part of why it worked might have been because it was an efficient LP marker, and didn't need 800psi to operate normally, anyway.

I chrono'd it in that configuration initially, but I really don't know how it ended up performing after the tank directly on the marker ran down. And since I was on defense in the castle, which was mostly CQB, I might not have noticed a reduction in range if there was one.

So I can see how two tanks in "parallel" like papaintballer would work great, but I guess I'll have to walk myself back from saying that rigging them in "series" is really a good solution for others until I can test the idea. Anybody else have any thoughts or experiences doing something like this?
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Old 06-24-2011, 10:32 PM #14
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Yes. Same thing I did when I was a rookie at the local fire department. They have what is called a cascade storage system for breathing air. Five big tanks you use to fill the smaller SCBA tanks. You fill off the first tank until it gets too low to fill all the way. Then you go to the next storage tank in line to top off the SCBA tank. But if you forget like I did and dont shut off the first storage tank you have just equalized the two tanks and now you cant get a full fill of either of them. Doh! Normally you only do that once and after someone gets done fussing at you, you figured out how to do it right. Especially if your like we were and didnt have our own compressor. We had to wait until the firemarshals office brought the mobile air trailer backaround to fill our storage tanks...

Not the same situation but the same principle.

Alot of Tankers run SCUBA tanks to thier HPA tanks like that (as long as they are the same pressure 3000 or 4500). They use the HPA tanks reg to regulate the pressure down to the guns pressure instead of buying and setting up a regulator specificly for the SCUBA tank since most of us already have HPA tanks. You were doing basicly the same thing which is having a fill station hooked up constantly except both your tanks were small tanks instead of one being a SCUBA tank.
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Old 07-13-2011, 12:23 PM #15
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Why not just have one tank attached to your gun and one in your back pouch; when the first runs out, replace it with the second?
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Old 07-27-2011, 02:01 PM #18
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Is it just me or does he have an extremely skewed ratio of available air to paint?
^^ This!

ego8: 7 pods off of a 68/45 ... I love playing scenario games, but really guys? I promise you this, you don't need THAT much air. If you know how to tune a marker, a TM15 can get 6-7 pods off a single fill; if you're going through 1 tank for 3 pods and a hopper, something is seriously wrong with your setup
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Old 08-01-2011, 11:33 AM #19
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And he had two tanks for three pods... I hope he was the "Heavy Gunner" and had an ammo man that was following him around or either he was defending a base and had a big ole box of pods close by.
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Old 08-02-2011, 12:17 PM #20
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I wonder if there is an easy way to modify a bottomline ASA fitting that has an on-off lever, into one that has an on-off-on function? Or just A/B? Similar to your approach Boom Master, but mounted right on the marker. One tank screws right onto the bottomline fitting, and then the line from a remote tank attaches to a nipple on the side of it. After one tank empties, throw the valve to connect the other.

Hmmm. This might be really easy to make.
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Old 08-02-2011, 12:56 PM #21
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My old Pysco Ballistic drop forward had an ASA with on/off that had threaded ports on each side so you could choose which side you wantd to have the air line come off of. Something like that, you could plumb in a remote to the opposite side...
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