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Old 05-15-2011, 03:33 PM #1
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NT11 - Double feed / not firing

Only had about 4 cases through it . .


Yesterday it was working all day until last game . . it was shooting one ball the next was either not firing or firing and not leaving barrel (loose barrel match, not stuck).


Fresh battery tried, no luck.

If I single fed ball into feedneck it would fire fine.

Flashing orange light.




Up dwell is all I can think? anything else I should be doing, my knowledge of these NT's lacks only had a few weeks.


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Old 05-15-2011, 08:57 PM #2
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you need to relube your spool... happened to me this last week. threw some lube on my spool and good to go
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Old 05-15-2011, 09:22 PM #3
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Only had about 4 cases through it . .


Yesterday it was working all day until last game . . it was shooting one ball the next was either not firing or firing and not leaving barrel (loose barrel match, not stuck).


Fresh battery tried, no luck.

If I single fed ball into feedneck it would fire fine.

Flashing orange light.




Up dwell is all I can think? anything else I should be doing, my knowledge of these NT's lacks only had a few weeks.



double feeding is usually due to too much dwell.. whats your dwell at now? keep it lower then 11
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Old 05-16-2011, 07:49 AM #4
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same thing in, NT11 < 6 cases of paint. Gave it a lube job as per the field "lore"

Also changing the inserts was suggested. I'm using Yellow + Blue ..
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Old 05-16-2011, 04:52 PM #5
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Thanks dudes, its all stock settings at the minute. Will lube up and fire at weekend and see what happens.

Will report back.
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Old 05-17-2011, 05:48 AM #6
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Really sounds like you operating pressure is to low. When your reg has been turned down to much you will hear the solonoid click and hear a small puff from the bolt. The puff of air is enough to move a ball past the eye pipe but not out the barrel. Then if you crank up your reg again and it fires/cycles normally it can give the illusion of double feeding.

Grab a pressure tester! :-)
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Old 05-17-2011, 01:29 PM #7
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I relubed today and its firing lazer ropes of awesome again.

Ive asked dye for a reg tester to see wharrup, ill make sure its at pressure.



Its as simple as needing lubed?

can i ask y'all, how often do you lube your nt11 while its bedding in? after every days play i assume?
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Old 05-17-2011, 01:44 PM #8
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I relubed today and its firing lazer ropes of awesome again.

Ive asked dye for a reg tester to see wharrup, ill make sure its at pressure.



Its as simple as needing lubed?

can i ask y'all, how often do you lube your nt11 while its bedding in? after every days play i assume?
i relube the bolt after every day of use.... if its been sitting around a while.. ill clean it and relube the night before i use it.. and test fire it just in case.
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Old 05-17-2011, 01:51 PM #9
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Pretty much every day, or if its been a busy morning I might pull the bolt and clear crud and ---lightly--- re-lube after a few games (cases)
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Old 05-17-2011, 01:53 PM #10
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Keep it lubed after every day of play. I have gone a few weeks without lubing it but I find it performs better when I keep it lubed.

if you do pick up a pressure tester swap out the Dye gauge because it is terrible. I have a real 150psi Ashcroft guage on there because the dye was off by 15-20 psi.
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Old 05-17-2011, 03:10 PM #11
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I relube the bolt lightly the night before Im playing. I relube the spool like once a month just cause its more of a pain to get to.
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Old 05-17-2011, 04:32 PM #12
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ok so deffo lube often then as suspected.
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Old 05-31-2011, 07:03 PM #13
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bump.

Heppened again.

What am I doing wrong, im totally assuming user error here..

I was getting paint out of all the bits paint gets. . so took marker right down to almost bare, all together fine, all oring ok, lubed ok.

When dry firing I get a single shot then a what sounds like a car sneezing coming from the bolt area.


Help!
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Old 05-31-2011, 07:17 PM #14
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are your eyes working? I have noticed the wires and the molex connectors are kinda fragile
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Old 05-31-2011, 07:23 PM #15
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check your detents. I had a similar issue last weekend. Make sure the detents aren't getting stuck in the eye pipe. One side of my detents was pushed out of the hole just enough for paint to roll past it.
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Old 05-31-2011, 07:25 PM #16
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Eyes off for dry firing. Not wires or detents.
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Old 05-31-2011, 07:57 PM #17
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is the stem loose when you pull out the bolt assembly
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Old 06-01-2011, 03:24 AM #18
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Stem? Back half of the assembly?

Its all screwed together if thats what you mean?
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Old 06-01-2011, 07:14 AM #19
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yep that's what I was referring to
Mine was coming loose by itself and having the same issues
new oring and a drop of blue loctite and it stays put
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Old 06-01-2011, 07:32 AM #20
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yep that's what I was referring to
Mine was coming loose by itself and having the same issues
new oring and a drop of blue loctite and it stays put
Not sure if I agree with you there, it could have possibly been the first thing that unscrewed when you took it apart. The gun itself is designed where the bolt assembly snugs up against the internal milling, this would leave zero tolerance for anything to come undone and effectively locking it altogether. For whatever reason there is always one part that wants to break loose as you turn the back cap.

I just learned the other day that the back cap only needs 1.5 turns to come undone while the rest need like 4. if you keep unscrewing the back cap you can unscrew the internals. This leaves the appearance of the internals coming undone in the gun and people suspect that there is something wrong.
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Old 06-03-2011, 01:36 AM #21
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Lower your dwell and check you detents..those are the most common problems
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