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Old 03-19-2011, 06:04 AM #1
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upgrades

hi guys, just picked up a vanguard and i just want it confirmed that the rammer and lpr are PRE upgrade parts, thanks:

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Old 03-19-2011, 06:09 AM #2
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also how do i tell if i have the LP poppet? it already has the white bolt with the x-rings installed
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Old 03-19-2011, 09:25 AM #3
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Yup, That LPR Piston is def. old style. The new ones have two o-rings..

Looks like the Rammer is the old one as well.

The old poppets were all plastic if im not mistaken. The new poppets are stainless steal with a white plastic but. Real easy to identify.

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Old 03-19-2011, 10:07 AM #4
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Old 03-19-2011, 10:20 AM #5
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Poppits were delrin Tyler. WAY different than plastic.


If you got it used or traded for one, then you may not have all of the internal upgrades. If you got it from the factory within the past few months, all off the latest upgrades would be included.
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Old 03-19-2011, 08:17 PM #6
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Poppits were delrin Tyler. WAY different than plastic.


If you got it used or traded for one, then you may not have all of the internal upgrades. If you got it from the factory within the past few months, all off the latest upgrades would be included.
Delrin is a Polyoxymethylene. AKA, plastic. hahahaha Same ****, diff name and molecule structure..
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Old 03-19-2011, 09:58 PM #7
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I have much the same question, except mine is: who do I contact to get the newer style parts. My old style poppet no longer seals properly (I've changed orings and relubed, no change whatsoever) so I'd like to install all the upgraded parts in 1 fell swoop. Mine's a fairly early Creed and so has ALL the original stuff.
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Old 03-19-2011, 11:48 PM #8
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I have much the same question, except mine is: who do I contact to get the newer style parts. My old style poppet no longer seals properly (I've changed orings and relubed, no change whatsoever) so I'd like to install all the upgraded parts in 1 fell swoop. Mine's a fairly early Creed and so has ALL the original stuff.
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Old 03-20-2011, 07:27 PM #9
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Old 03-20-2011, 08:48 PM #10
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US FACTORY LOCATION.

Www.vanguardus.com

We have all parts instock and avail. All other locations are limited to what they have avail.
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Old 03-22-2011, 07:19 AM #11
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Ok, haven't heard anything back from the tech support email address at the site. Can someone post WHAT ALL PARTS I would actually need to get to bring my Creed up to date?
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Old 03-22-2011, 09:03 AM #12
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Miller, you really need to open the gun up and compare to whats on the website. Most of the newer parts on the website say 2010.
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Old 03-22-2011, 09:37 AM #13
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So noone knows what's been updated since the Creed was released then?
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So noone knows what's been updated since the Creed was released then?
Stainless Steel Low Pressure Poppet
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Old 03-22-2011, 09:56 AM #15
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Thank you!! Then that's what I need. I'll have to order when I get home.
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Thank you!! Then that's what I need. I'll have to order when I get home.
But like it was mentioned above you should open the marker up and compare with the items online. Because your Creed already might have the Low Pressure poppet.
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Old 03-22-2011, 11:19 AM #17
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Well, the problem is the poppet is shot, so even if it did, it would be a mute point. But my Creed was a VERY early one, and nothing has been upgraded on it, it's exactly as they first came out.
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Old 03-22-2011, 12:38 PM #18
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You say early, is it a V1 or V2?
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Early v2.
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Early v2.
then you can get the package deal with Stainless Steel Poppet, Light Weight Ram and White Delrin bolt. And cough up another Dove for the Dual LPR piston.

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Old 03-22-2011, 02:10 PM #21
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Ok, I do see the upgrade kit. Wish they offered the 3 part kit with one of the dyed blue bolts...but at least I'll finally bring her up to date.
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