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Old 03-05-2013, 11:53 AM #1
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Another bolt mod for Dangerous Power G4

I would like your feelings about this mod for the Dangerous Power G4 (It would need one more O-ring) on the bolt to fit the G3 :



I juste received the first prototype parts yesterday :





I will send it to polish and anno this week end, so I would be able to post some shooting videos and velocity comparaison in 2 weeks
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Old 03-05-2013, 12:01 PM #2
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this looks interesting to say the least..... it looks like you tried to apply a shocker type bolt in the g3
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Old 03-05-2013, 12:24 PM #3
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At the beginning I just wanted to make a kind of sharpie mod by machining a back cap. But I also wanted to increase the volume of the chamber.

Finally, I decided to design a complete bolt system
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Old 03-05-2013, 02:17 PM #4
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Nice! Always great to see people innovating.
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Old 03-05-2013, 02:32 PM #5
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At the beginning I just wanted to make a kind of sharpie mod by machining a back cap. But I also wanted to increase the volume of the chamber.

Finally, I decided to design a complete bolt system
Looks nice. The sharpie mod was the first thing I thought of when I saw it. Can't wait to see some numbers
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Old 03-05-2013, 02:57 PM #6
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Old 03-05-2013, 11:18 PM #7
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Looks to possibly fit the g5 too. Gl
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Old 03-05-2013, 11:21 PM #8
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Glad to see you followed up on the pen cap mod i showed you, making it something legit

If the bolt its self has no moving orings, it should fit the g5 as long as its an entire bolt/backcap combo.

The reason we cant use the techt engine in the g5 is because the g4 techt engine has a moving orings on the bolt that hits the ridges. No orings on the bolt = no problem.
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Old 03-05-2013, 11:24 PM #9
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Reminds me of... a g5 bolt?
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Old 03-05-2013, 11:31 PM #10
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sort of. the pen cap front of the stem will help prevent turbulence and the same idea was brought into play between the stem oring and the backcap. Plus more volume.

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Old 03-05-2013, 11:48 PM #11
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Need some milling on that back cap for grabbage !
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Old 03-06-2013, 05:02 AM #12
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Thanks for your comments.

I will make some more millings manually on the back cap this week end (that was too expansive make it on machine)

After tests, i am thinking about modifying the bolt guide to make it a little more like a NT
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Old 03-06-2013, 05:45 AM #13
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Also the gun is very loud. You need to out some type of oring on the back of the bolt to make it more queiter and less kick.
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Reducing noise and kick is also a goal of this project, by increasing the volume of the chamber.

I will think about adding an O-ring in the back cap (as it is done for the hammer of Tippmann 98) in a next version
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Old 03-06-2013, 10:37 AM #15
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a bumper for the bolt returning would be very nice. It will make everything feel nicer.
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Old 03-06-2013, 12:21 PM #16
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You need a bumper for the boots forward motion.
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Old 03-06-2013, 01:06 PM #17
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Old 03-06-2013, 01:22 PM #18
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So this seals off the firing chamber when in its forward position?

And move the tip of the bolt guide forward to act as an anti-roll back device too.

Nice job.
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Old 03-06-2013, 04:15 PM #19
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Sounds interesting and very reminiscent of a shocker/luxe.

I don't want to take credit for this idea because I'm not sure if i saw it on an other thread or not but: i think that in order to increase the dump chamber an "extension" tube should be put on to increase the overall volume. It seems to be a simple solution but no one has done it so i could be wrong and i don't know how costly it would be either.

Good luck with this and i think a cross between an NT and a Shocker would make a killer gun.
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Old 03-06-2013, 05:09 PM #20
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So this seals off the firing chamber when in its forward position?

And move the tip of the bolt guide forward to act as an anti-roll back device too.

Nice job.
i don't see this sealing in the forward position although it is very similar to a design i'm working on to do that. i need that so i can turn the g series into a mech
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Old 03-06-2013, 05:28 PM #21
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Call me stupid, but I honestly did not get the pen cap mod (understand it) until I saw that diagram. I'm no engineer mind you but that pic explained everything to me. Guess I could not picture what was being said. I feel better now that I see it and understand it. That's neat.
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