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Old 01-18-2012, 12:45 AM #1
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Keeping a perfect circle

Hey guys, kinda new with the whole tinkering aspect and am still pretty unfamiliar on how to do certain things.

I was wondering, if I wanted to play around and make my own bolt out of delrin, how would I shave off the excess plastic off the rod to make it the proper size while still keeping it a perfect cylinder?

I don't have any sophisticated tools, I have a Dremel I got for Christmas and some hand tools, so any help of what I can do with what I have or what I would need to get would be great. Thanks!
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Old 01-18-2012, 12:48 AM #2
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i dont know of any way you could do this without the use of a lathe
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If you can figure out a way to attach your material to a hand drill, it should be pretty easy to carefully remove excess material.
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Old 01-18-2012, 01:16 AM #4
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I was kind of thinking I could kind of make a circular path and attach my Dremel to a crank or lever of some sort that followed that path and that way I could keep it going in a controlled circle.
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Maybe. A Dremel will be more difficult to control.
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I figured, but hopefully I can get something rigged up. Dunno if I can afford something that'll do a better job at the moment haha
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If you have a drill or second dremel you can attache the delrin to that. Duct tape that down to make a ghetto lathe. Then duct tape your cutting dremel next to it so that it cuts as the delrin turns. This would work if you replace the drill with anything that can spin and be controlled. It is neither easy nor efficient nor effective. You really do want a lathe. There are many machinists here (me included) that would make parts for you for cheap (cheap when compared to a regular shop).

Here are some links on how to make your own very cheap lathe. The last one is a mill. For delrin these should work ok. For metal, not a chance.

http://www.instructables.com/id/PoleTreadle-Lathe/

http://www.instructables.com/id/A-mo...ng-pole-lathe/

http://www.instructables.com/id/Benc...erSharp/#step1

http://www.instructables.com/id/My-30-Milling-Machine/
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I like that idea cpt, thanks for the suggestion. I'll probably see if I can do something like that. I'll take a look at the articles too.

Yea I know I need a lathe for metal work, and when that time comes I'll probably have my stuff sent out to have that done haha.
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If your interested in machining just save up and get small lathe. You can get a pretty decent one for your application for about 600. You won't be able to make anything of quality with hand tools.
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You won't be able to make anything of quality with hand tools.
That's simply not true.
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If your interested in machining just save up and get small lathe. You can get a pretty decent one for your application for about 600. You won't be able to make anything of quality with hand tools.
Yea, hand tools just take much longer if you want qualith... butthey also make you feel more accomplished depending on what you're doing haha.

And I'd love to buy a lathe but honestly, that's more than any of my guns lol (just recently got into paintball altogether), not to mention I wouldn't be able to afford one regardless.
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If your interested in machining just save up and get small lathe. You can get a pretty decent one for your application for about 600. You won't be able to make anything of quality with hand tools.
You sir i must disagree with. I do everything with hand tools, and my friends are usually impressed with my results (my best friends gramps is a machinist as well) you just have to have patience and be willing to put blood sweat and tears into it.
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Old 02-22-2012, 03:26 AM #13
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You sir i must disagree with. I do everything with hand tools, and my friends are usually impressed with my results (my best friends gramps is a machinist as well) you just have to have patience and be willing to put blood sweat and tears into it.
I'm willing to bet you don't do much involving fine tolerances..as in bolt-kits..

If you need something made to a specific spec. you use a lathe\turn\machinery to get it EXACTLY to the spec. you need it to be..

If it was filing down a body or something similar, I agree that you could use hand-tools if you know how to do it (getting symetry using handtools is HARD).
But for finer operations, machinery is the only way to go. And by machinery I do NOT mean a dremel....
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^^ this. You can sand/file down a bolt by hand, but it will be uneven in a lot of spots. Plus, there is no way you can get a halfway decent o-ring groove by hand. Lathe is the way to go. Harbor freight makes a nice benchtop model.
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Glad to see someone has my back on this one. haha i guess? Idk... I know that you can make stuff that "looks good" with hand tools. Hell I used to do it. Id be in the shop with my hack saw dye grinder and files just going away at it. You simply can't do the same quality work with your hands as you can with a lathe or mill. Files are going to ride one way or the other. A mill head is going to as paralleled as you can measure. Which is pretty near perfect.

I use one of those bench top machines from harbor freight with an extended bed and it is a tuff little machine.

http://www.harborfreight.com/7-inch-...the-93212.html

You can take 100 dollars off of that because they always have a 20 percent off coupon floating around.

You will have all kinds of fun with that. Maybe next Christmas? haha.

I also found an import that I liked after I built mine out. I think it was like 600. It was the same size as the extended one I have now. It had a digital readout and all. Needless to say shop around. Even look for used stuff.
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I have an older model of that HB one, and it is indeed a good machine. You can only fit a 3/4" diameter piece through the head, but for PB stuff, you dont really need to turn really long pieces of material much bigger than that all that much.

edit: and yeah, xsv, I got your back
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I'm willing to bet you don't do much involving fine tolerances..as in bolt-kits..

If you need something made to a specific spec. you use a lathe\turn\machinery to get it EXACTLY to the spec. you need it to be..

If it was filing down a body or something similar, I agree that you could use hand-tools if you know how to do it (getting symetry using handtools is HARD).
But for finer operations, machinery is the only way to go. And by machinery I do NOT mean a dremel....
Alright, i concede defeat there. I can't do extremely fine operations, but i do pretty well on asthetics and firing mechanism modifications.
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Alright, i concede defeat there. I can't do extremely fine operations, but i do pretty well on asthetics and firing mechanism modifications.
Im assuming by firing mechanism you are referring to dremeling a spyder stiker and sear, because no way in hell your getting anything else to spec with a hand tool.

I think you should just buy and upgrade bolt for your gun over attempting to create a new one. You could proboly try to hand machine a bolt 1000 times and only get a it right once or twice.
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