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Old 03-24-2011, 08:26 PM #22
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Oh man I want to use the skulls on my 98 that would be sick
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Old 03-28-2011, 02:37 PM #23
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This must be one of the coolest DIY things I've ever seen
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As others have said... the prep is one of the most important parts. It definitely adds a little thickness as you need to primer the parts prior to doing the dipping. Then the clear coat is very important as far as keeping things safe. The great thing is, when all is said and done it looks amazing and is hard to scratch or ruin! Mine has 3 layers of an automotive grade clear coat.

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Old 04-05-2011, 11:40 AM #25
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Old 04-06-2011, 02:13 PM #26
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As others have said... the prep is one of the most important parts. It definitely adds a little thickness as you need to primer the parts prior to doing the dipping. Then the clear coat is very important as far as keeping things safe. The great thing is, when all is said and done it looks amazing and is hard to scratch or ruin! Mine has 3 layers of an automotive grade clear coat.

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Old 04-11-2011, 02:23 PM #27
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what colors will this cover? do you need to strip your current anno in order to do this? sorry im a noob at this stuff
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Old 04-11-2011, 08:03 PM #28
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what colors will this cover?
Not sure what you are asking here, could you please clarify.

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do you need to strip your current anno in order to do this? sorry im a noob at this stuff
Yes the anodizing needs to be completely removed from the EXTERIOR surfaces. The base coat color, depends on the film you choose.
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Old 04-11-2011, 08:15 PM #29
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I would like to know how he prevented the coating from causing a tolerance issue inside the gun and the barrels.
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I would like to know how he prevented the coating from causing a tolerance issue inside the gun and the barrels.
Not sure how he did it but we use a combo of silicone plugs, low tack vinyl tape, and vinyl paint mask to mask off the areas where we don't want effected by the coating process. In these areas the original anodizing is left untouched. For the barrels we have a expandable plug that runs the full length of the barrel to protect it.
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Old 04-12-2011, 08:06 AM #31
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thats what I thought but what about the ports do u plug all them
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Old 04-12-2011, 10:15 AM #32
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thats what I thought but what about the ports do u plug all them
Yes our plugs run the full length of the barrel and expand to fill any voids. This seals off the porting and protects the bore. We also use them when anodizing barrels to seal off the bore of the barrel so the inside ID is not effected.
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Old 04-12-2011, 02:31 PM #34
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I make the barrel plugs here at the shop. However the basic silicone plugs we get from different suppliers depending on how much / what type of plug we need. Let me know what you are looking for and I can point you in the right direction. If you are just needing a hand full for one project I can sell you some we have one hand and save you some $$$.
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Old 04-13-2011, 12:14 PM #35
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Old 05-02-2011, 09:59 PM #36
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how many sheets does it come with because i would need to dip a few things.
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Is it absolutely necessary to strip the old anno in an acid bath? I couldn't imagine the clear coat would add that much of a noticeable layer right??

If the answer is yes, can someone aware me on how to strip anno?
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Please be careful with these kits, I can assure you that the process is a lot more involved than they let on. Also as for the thickness of the "film" it is a non issue it is the thickness of the clear coat that will get you.
As a Dipper, I second this man. Its Truly not as easy as "these kit vids" make it out to be. Also, products included in these kits often do not produce optimal results(spray cans can drop psi and run dry of product or a mixture of both. Dipping out of a tub is also not optimal in controlling temp to exactly what it needs to be). It can be done, however you will not get optimal results like stated. I apply a 2-3 coats of a high build 2 part Automotive Clear coat, its adds thickness, however prepped correctly with tape and plug can prevent it only going on places that need protection. Its a very tedious process, especially PB guns(g6r has to be the worst to prep. lol), and real firearms where tolerances matter.
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Prep is super important with hydro dipping and painting. 2 vary important things left out of that video are the prep and final coating.
Yep, I often blast anno off guns where the coating will be applied and leave the anno in all the other locations. Prep is key, especially as anno often acts as teflon and is very hard to get a coating to stick correctly to it, but it can be done.
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I think this is pretty cool. Id love to do this to my pump. Will it only bond to metal or will it grab plastic? Also, how durable is the finish with the clearcoat?
The process prepped correctly will bond to anything that can be painted. Plastic(polypropylene needs to be heat treated and alcohol soaked) , rubber(tricks to that), metal of all kinds(chrome is tricky), wood, pretty much anything.

As for Durability. Proper 2 part high build clear coat is a tough son of a B. By no means is it bullet proof though, and will scratch but only after taking a beating and protecting the actual pattern and gun. Anno in our industry is not a type 3 hard anno process generally. It is just a dyeing on the metal. Doing a actual coating might actually the difference in have a scratch in the metal or in just the coating. Clear coat can also be touched up, and re applied as needed witch is nice.

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Im going to take a shot in the dark and say that with the clearcoat, its just as durable as spraypaint with clear coats
Actually no. Spray paint is honestly not as durable as this. Spray paint has a different solvent and a hardening agent built all into one, which really doesnt allow it to set up correctly in regards to durability. Generally Spray can clear, lacks a true hardening agent or else it would harden in the can. There are a couple companies that make a UV resistant and pretty good Spray can clear(one with a pop bubble on the bottom that actually adds the hardening agent) These however are about 20-30$ for a can, which doesnt do much.

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do they just plug the gun body cavities before they do the dip? seems like that would be the kind of stuff that would change the inner tolerances
A lot of prep and plugs and tape are added to ensure the coating doesnt get in any areas it shouldnt or where a tolerance issue might arise. I cant speak for everyone and especially the DIY dippers. Most professional companies take their time however ensuring no possible tolerance or functioning issues should arise do to the coating.


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Not sure how he did it but we use a combo of silicone plugs, low tack vinyl tape, and vinyl paint mask to mask off the areas where we don't want effected by the coating process. In these areas the original anodizing is left untouched. For the barrels we have a expandable plug that runs the full length of the barrel to protect it.
To be honest, one dipper to another, What does one of those barrel silicone plugs run. I Honestly have just used paper towels, and regular masking tape and never had a issue. That is how i was taught however. Dont get me wrong sometimes the paper towels can be a B word. Especially when having to remove all forms of masking before the clear truly sets to the tacky stage. lol.
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To be honest, one dipper to another, What does one of those barrel silicone plugs run. I Honestly have just used paper towels, and regular masking tape and never had a issue. That is how i was taught however. Dont get me wrong sometimes the paper towels can be a B word. Especially when having to remove all forms of masking before the clear truly sets to the tacky stage. lol.
Could one not simply use clay/plasticine?
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