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Old 12-08-2012, 08:23 AM #862
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Can you ( or anyone) get the full text to check the 0.5 mg effect? I'm probably just wrong but I'm curious
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Old 12-08-2012, 08:35 AM #863
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I feel like 5mg is a ****load of melatonin to take before doing something active.
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Old 12-08-2012, 08:56 AM #864
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Old 12-08-2012, 09:30 AM #865
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Is this the one, http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2174513/
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Old 12-08-2012, 09:45 AM #866
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This one seems to conflict the results of the first study, http://rd.springer.com/article/10.10.../fulltext.html
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Old 12-08-2012, 04:00 PM #867
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This one seems to conflict the results of the first study, http://rd.springer.com/article/10.10.../fulltext.html
In the abstract, yes it says that in heavy resistance training the levels of testosterone and GH were either unaffected or even slightly lowered. In the second paragraph after "introduction" is says that with doses of greater than 1mg Melatonin showed an increase in GH. Lurker was reccomending to take it before low intesity cardio workouts. Here it is from the article (I only removed citations from the section for easier reading):

"It is very well-known that the GH response increases with both duration and intensity of exercise. Meeking studied the effects of a single dose of oral melatonin (5 mg) on the exercise-induced GH secretion in men. The bicycle exercise was performed for 8 min at a workload corresponding to 70% of that achieved at the VO2max test. They found that this short period exercise induced an increase in GH concentration following the melatonin treatment that was greater than with the placebo as assessed by both the area under the curve (AUC) and the peak increase in GH concentration."

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Can you ( or anyone) get the full text to check the 0.5 mg effect? I'm probably just wrong but I'm curious
From the article I quoted from, it seems that anything less than 1mg didn't have much effect on testosterone or GH levels.
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Old 12-08-2012, 04:51 PM #868
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So i'm new to this whole fitness thing.

For my workout tools i have 2x 20 pound dumbbells and 2x 10 pound dumbbells.

I weigh around 120 - 135 and i'm 21 years old.
I read the first page and the first page says i'm not suppose to eat for 16 hours? Every day?

Today i've ate a bagel with Philadelphia cream cheese, now i'm eating a bag of almonds. Should I start the 16 hour fasting tomorrow? And i'm not suppose to eat breakfast? Just a lunch?
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Old 12-08-2012, 04:58 PM #869
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Everyday you fast for 16hrs, and then get 8hrs to eat. Most people start fasting at midnight and skip breakfast and lunch, which just tends to be the most convenient for the average persons schedule. But you can start the fast whenever works best for you as long as you do that same time every day.

Not sure if trolling.
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Old 12-08-2012, 05:15 PM #870
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He sounds new, not trolling.
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Old 12-08-2012, 05:20 PM #871
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So i don't eat for 16 hours everyday. Then eat for 8 hours straight?
Man this sounds hard.

wow how are you guys alive?

you guys eat meat or no meat?

whats the calorie intake suppose to be for this? 2,000?
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Old 12-08-2012, 05:25 PM #872
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He sounds new, not trolling.
I'm gonna have to disagree, http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.p...033&highlight=
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Old 12-08-2012, 05:30 PM #873
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Old 12-08-2012, 05:52 PM #874
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Is this a everyday schedule? To not eat for 16 hours then eat for 8 hours?

Or is this just a two times a week schedule?

Trying to figure out when I should have my meals, I don't have a gym membership. Just dumbbells.
So i'll start at midnight. Not eat until 4pm tomorrow. And i'll eat just packaged burritos or chilli dogs or some chicken thighs.
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Old 12-08-2012, 05:58 PM #875
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OK I'm sorry, this is just ridiculous. Maybe I'm wrong.
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Old 12-08-2012, 06:07 PM #876
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I'm not necessarily trying to get body builder status here but just keep a nice physique nice and skinny maybe a bit toned.

I don't have the money to get a gym membership. So i'm trying to use this as a good nutritional diet plan. Will the lean gains make me fat if I don't do proper workouts?
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Old 12-08-2012, 06:08 PM #877
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Either worst troll ever, or this kid just has a serious lack of reading comprehension. Maybe both.
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Old 12-08-2012, 06:13 PM #878
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Lack of reading comprehension. Don't understand most of the workouts described on first page.

"DC" = WHAT?

Don't understand this either.

"Intense resistance training" is to be performed no less than 2 and no more than 4 times per week.

what?? ^^

Do i need to work out? Or can I use this to stay slim? I want to reduce my body fat. I don't need to be a intense body builder.
Is this the right program to try Leangains? Seems like people have lost body fat doing it. I guess i'll try tonight at midnight.

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Old 12-08-2012, 06:27 PM #879
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Lack of reading comprehension. Don't understand most of the workouts described on first page.

"DC" = WHAT?

Don't understand this either.

"Intense resistance training" is to be performed no less than 2 and no more than 4 times per week.

what?? ^^

Do i need to work out? Or can I use this to stay slim? I want to reduce my body fat. I don't need to be a intense body builder.
Is this the right program to try Leangains? Seems like people have lost body fat doing it. I guess i'll try tonight at midnight.
Bro nobody actually does LG anymore, it's all insanity and p90x 2.0
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Old 12-08-2012, 06:28 PM #880
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Old 12-08-2012, 06:29 PM #881
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Honestly, start with just cleaning up your diet and maintaining your normal meal schedule. I feel like you think leangains is what all fitness-minded individuals do. It isn't magic. Start more towards the top stickies before coming to the threads below them.
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Bro nobody actually does LG anymore, it's all insanity and p90x 2.0
I realize you're kidding, but you do realize you're comparing a dietary system to workout scheme, right?
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Before I would just eat whatever I saw in the kitchen at any time of the day. Frozen pizza, hot dogs, soda. Lots of soda.

Now i'm trying to drop all the soda and redbull all the frozen foods and eat more healthier food like fruits and vegetables, my daily water needs. I don't have a meal schedule I eat food still at random times of the day. I'm now noticed I should not eat after 6pm. But all my meals are not on a time schedule.

I've been eating lots of fruit like pineapple and bananas and blueberries. Almonds. I just had a frozen burrito for lunch. Trying to find a meal plan to help me stay slim / slender but maybe with a little muscle tone. Arms and six pack.
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