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Old 03-08-2011, 10:56 PM #232
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It's fine, but nuts are like a "be careful" food.
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Old 03-08-2011, 10:59 PM #233
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how do you feel about breaking my fast at 16 hours with,
35g of protein
50g of good carbs + 36g of grape juice sugar
0g of fat

then getting my bcaa's about 30 minutes layer, then hitting the gym a total of 40 minutes later?
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Old 03-09-2011, 01:37 PM #234
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lurker do you actually follow this for cutting? i looked at the lean gains sight and it seemed to be alot of smaller guys doing it. even the guys who competed all were weighing in at under 85kgs.
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Old 03-09-2011, 05:46 PM #235
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o lurker,
how do you feel about breaking my fast at 16 hours with,
35g of protein
50g of good carbs + 36g of grape juice sugar
0g of fat

then getting my bcaa's about 30 minutes layer, then hitting the gym a total of 40 minutes later?
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Old 03-09-2011, 06:11 PM #236
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lurker do you actually follow this for cutting? i looked at the lean gains sight and it seemed to be alot of smaller guys doing it. even the guys who competed all were weighing in at under 85kgs.
I am now. It's amazing how light you are when you have no fat, though. I will see where i end up but my strength has been holding up ok
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Old 03-09-2011, 06:12 PM #237
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its a yes or no question. you agreed that it would be okay to break the fast, but we never talked about the actual macros.
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Old 03-09-2011, 06:44 PM #238
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I would prefer to see less carbs, tbh. For cutting, anyway. But 50/100 is a good meal generally, so you're actually probably ok. Or, move the training back. When i break the fast with a meal i allow for like 3 hours before I lift so I'm still taking the bcaa/working out in a semifasted state...
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Old 03-11-2011, 12:30 AM #239
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less of what type of carbs? my grape juice has 36g of sugar in it and my bagel has 50g of good carbs. so do you want me to find a "light" grape juice, or eat less of the bagel?

also, should i count the carbs that are in protein shakes or vegetables?

should i bother counting the protein in wheat?

is: 250p 100c and 20f, 1580kcal total which is 63.3p/25.3c/11.4f in make up by cal percentage good? what should i change?

my post workout meal is looking like this:

100g of protein via 1lb of chicken
38g of protein via nighttime casein shake (milk+powder)
30g of protein via protein shake
bowl of kashi (40g of carbs) with milk (18g of protein)

also, ill have a protein shake pre workout (30g of protein) and 10g of protein in my wheat bagel. this is a lot of protein shakes...3. so all my protein is coming from chicken, protein shake, milk, and wheat

My fast will be broken at 16 hours, then i will workout an hour later after that meal.


edit: or should i skip grape juice preworkout and have 30p 50c, giving 320kcal (which is between 20-25% of daily intake which leangains recs). then take that with my xtend and superpump?
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Old 03-11-2011, 12:32 AM #240
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less of what type of carbs? my grape juice has 36g of sugar in it and my bagel has 50g of good carbs. so do you want me to find a "light" grape juice, or eat less of the bagel?

also, should i count the carbs that are in protein shakes or vegetables?

should i bother counting the protein in wheat?

is: 250p 100c and 20f, which is 63.3p/25.3c/11.4f in make up by cal percentage good? what should i change?

my post workout meal is looking like this:

100g of protein via 1lb of chicken
38g of protein via nighttime casein shake (milk+powder)
30g of protein via protein shake

My fast will be broken at 16 hours, then i will workout an hour later after that meal.
Damn dude you cutting on 1600 cals?
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Old 03-11-2011, 12:33 AM #241
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ya, 1580, whatdya think, too little?
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Old 03-11-2011, 12:54 AM #242
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I always read this thread as "Lurker's Guide to Shenanigans".
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Old 03-11-2011, 12:58 AM #243
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ya, 1580, whatdya think, too little?
Im not really well versed on cutting but generally the 500 deficit is a good starting point. What's your weight like 190? Maintenance close to 3k.
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Old 03-11-2011, 01:02 AM #244
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weighed in yesterday at 198. and i dont think i get that many calories. i think it was pretty easy to bulk. ~40lbs in 8 months.
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Seems wayyyy too low to me. I don't know...I'm 6' and 185 (or at least was when I started), and I've been doing it @ 2000 cals. I haven't had a weigh-in, but it's already very noticeable that I'm losing fat.


Lurker, quick question. I had to go in to school early for a rehearsal that got pushed back 2 hours. Since I had spare time, around 12:30 I took my Xtend and went to work out. I got out at 1:30 and planned to eat around 2...and then realized that since I had PLANNED on going to the gym and then straight home (since it would have been after practice), I didn't bring my Post-WO meal along. I had some chicken and rice amounting to about 450 cals, but wanted to keep my post-WO meal consistently the largest and then taper down from there. Around 2pm I popped about two of the cut pieces of chicken (20 or 30 grams probably) just so that I didn't leave my body with nothing. I would up getting out of practice around 2:50, and getting home/eating my large meal around 3:20 or so. Any damage done?
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Old 03-11-2011, 02:52 PM #247
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You've just ruined a months work of lean gains. No but seriously missing your planned meal by an hour will not do anything.
It really wasn't the meal timing as related to LeanGains that I was worried about, but rather having your body in a worn state without nutrients for longer than usual.

EDIT: WTF smart parts deleted his post haha
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Old 03-11-2011, 02:53 PM #248
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No damage done, some suggest that carbless postworkout is actually super great for burning fat, so assuming you're cutting you're in great shape there.
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Old 03-11-2011, 02:55 PM #249
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Thanks...and for the record, when I got home carbs ensued haha.
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no specific critiques so ill assume everything is fine. i will be counting carbs and fats on protein labels, i will be counting protein in wheat, i will be doing protein shake + bagel 1 hour before i workout, and i will leave everything else the way it is
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I think it will be fine, as long as its 20-25% and around 50-50 protein carbs
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Old 03-11-2011, 03:42 PM #252
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oops. i meant to do

250p, 80c, 30f.
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