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Old 05-16-2013, 12:56 PM #1
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Smile Efficiency of Mini

Hey guys curious what kind of efficiency is a good tuned mini getting? looking to maybe getting a mini. I want something that at least gets 1500 shots of a 68/4500. What is the weight of a mini with the barrel on? Hows the stock trigger? How smooth, quiet, is the min? Much barrel rise?
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Old 05-16-2013, 01:10 PM #2
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If properly tuned (Operating PSI, Dwell, FPS, etc), you should be able to easily get a hopper and 8-9 pods out of a Mini with a 68/4500 tank.
At least, thats what Im able to get... chronoed at 280FPS, operating PSI at 180 with bore matching the paint.
The stock barrel on a Mini is 689... I ran a Dye UL 688 bore most times, unless cold or humid, in which case I bumped up to a 693 to avoid shotgunning.
The stock trigger I ran for a few years before changing. I tuned that as well to my personal liking.
All that gave me a nice, qiuet gun that was relatively light with minimal kick... of course, that will also be personal preference to some degree. But for the money, you wont find a much nicer setup... Weigh-wise, I never actually measured mine, cuz it just simply wasnt much of a concern for me. Yes, there are lighter guns for more money, but there are even heavier ones for the same price
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Old 05-16-2013, 01:13 PM #3
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I got a dm6 currently, and my goal is efficiency and light weight. There the most important to me. what the difference between a v3 and a v2 mini?
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Old 05-16-2013, 01:16 PM #4
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I doubt a stock mini will give you over 1500 shots... it'll get fairly close though. Add a Lurker bolt and tune it correctly and you should be able to hit 1500. On minis tuning plays a big part in how they shoot. Minis can be tuned to shoot pretty smooth and quiet or they can be loud and somewhat kicky. Follow the tuning guide in the sticky and they'll shoot nice.
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Old 05-16-2013, 01:30 PM #5
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Very little difference between the V2 and V3... the Poppet was the big thing they improved. If possible, make sure you get a V3 mini, or at least one that was upgraded to V3 parts.

But yeah, exceeding 1500 shots on a 68/4500 is gonna be tough for the Mini, or any other gun for that matter. Ive heard of G6R 12's getting a case out of a full fill, but neve r actually saw it happen with my own eyes... even still.. the price difference between the two is Night and Day
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Old 05-16-2013, 02:29 PM #6
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what would be a better option of getting, dm6 or mini?
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Old 05-16-2013, 02:47 PM #7
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Post that in the vs forum^^^

But if you need good efficiency run your tank output at LOW pressure.
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Old 05-16-2013, 04:00 PM #8
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I currently have a dm6 I posted here to hear from you guys and not from the mini haters. What do you think about a geo +?
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Old 05-16-2013, 04:34 PM #9
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I currently have a dm6 I posted here to hear from you guys and not from the mini haters. What do you think about a geo +?
I think Geos are garbage until the 2.1 and even then they're mediocre. DM6s are great, but a little bulky compared to newer guns. The VS thread is the right place to post though.
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Old 05-16-2013, 04:39 PM #10
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Brand new etha > Geo +, 1, 2
Brand new etha = Geo 2.1
Brand new etha < Geo 3
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Old 05-16-2013, 05:29 PM #11
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I always thought geos where suppose to be the best nvm. Are Eva's all that great? I heard they feel cheesey? Any better then an etek?
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Old 05-16-2013, 05:31 PM #12
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Dumb question is a mini a poppit or spool?
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Old 05-16-2013, 06:22 PM #13
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Mini is an inline poppet.
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Old 05-16-2013, 06:38 PM #14
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is this about equal to an axe and worth 230
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Old 05-16-2013, 07:30 PM #15
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Brand new etha > Geo +, 1, 2
Brand new etha = Geo 2.1
Brand new etha < Geo 3
You're crazy man... I'd take any Geo over an etha. Ethas are awful IMO and NOWHERE close to equal a Geo 2.1.
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Old 05-16-2013, 08:46 PM #16
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Staying on topic, invert mini worth selling or trading my dm for one. With a good tune can I have an exact number if what to expect. Not 6-8 pods just say like 1200. I like weight, look, and design if it.
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Old 05-16-2013, 08:50 PM #17
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Toss a lurker eigenring in your DM and you'll get pretty close to the same efficiency.
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You're crazy man... I'd take any Geo over an etha. Ethas are awful IMO and NOWHERE close to equal a Geo 2.1.
Shot quality? I think I was very accurate
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Old 05-16-2013, 09:02 PM #19
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Shot quality? I think I was very accurate
We're not going to see eye to eye on that one. I hate the etha and would put it in the category with most DP guns. The GEOS aren't terrible until you consider price. I could pay $429 for a MacDev drone DX + $150 for an OLED and have a $600 that is competitive with a $1300 Geo 3.
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is this about equal to an axe and worth 230
Worth more...
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Old 05-21-2013, 06:15 AM #21
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Staying on topic, invert mini worth selling or trading my dm for one. With a good tune can I have an exact number if what to expect. Not 6-8 pods just say like 1200. I like weight, look, and design if it.
There isnt going to be an exact number of shots every time, thats why most estimates go by pods.. Shooting styles differ and can effect air efficency. So can temperatures, humidity, bore matching, even paint quality...
1 normal pod is 140+/- rds... 8 pods= 1120 +/- rds.
Most hoppers nowadays are 150-200 rds.

1350 rds for a good even number.... if you can shoot almost 3/4's of a case out of one tank... consider it efficient and go play.

As for the this vs that subject... you'll never get a straight answer on this. Minis are Poppet guns, DM's are Spoolies. Thats about the only hard info you'll get. DM's can be reliable as heck, they can also be a pain in the *** if there older and not properly maintained and repaired. The same goes for Minis... Ive seen problem markers that were never reliable, yet, thankfully, last year, for instance, mine was the most reliable gun on the team. Take it out of the case, air it up, and go play, while team mates that were DM users, PE users, and DP users wasted half the day fixing theirs at every game.
Its all in how you care for your gun. Mine always stay in the case, on a stand, or in my hand... end of story. never are they laid on the ground, on a table/ gearbag/ in my back seat, or tossed in a Tote bin in my basement until I play again...Never are they used and then not at least cleaned and checked out before going back in the case
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