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Old 02-08-2013, 07:19 AM #1555
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I think the siamese algae eater is my best option. I cant decide how many to get or where to look for them. Ordering one would be, probably, my only option. They will get here after my new 55 is started.
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Old 02-08-2013, 08:12 AM #1556
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a pleco (common) is almost never worth it, IMO. personally i think they should not be in the trade. unless you have a huge tank and insane filtration it will be more trouble than they are worth. they are sold small and as a tank cleaner so people buy them for their 10 and 20 gal's which is seriously screwed up. there are smallers species of pleco you could consider but they are still **** machines.


in terms of pure algae removal siamese algae eaters are top notch. nerite snails do a decent job and amano shrimp will shred the algae population. the only concern i have would be if you are dropping them in with the knife fish as everything i listed outside the snails would probably end up food.


aquabid.com for all of that (if you cannot find them locally). i always find really good deals on there but shipping is pretty pricey so try to buy a bunch of stuff off someone if possible.
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liveaquaria is good but i find it to usually be pretty expensive
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Old 02-08-2013, 12:37 PM #1560
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nice, did you just make an indoor pond? i think that is what i am going to do for my next turtle set up.

oh, do you know if bog turtles are illegal to own nationally? ive never seen them available in any capacity and i know they are endangered
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Old 02-08-2013, 12:39 PM #1561
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I wouldn't get a common pleco, I'd get one of the variants. I think they will do fine in a 40% stocked 180g tank.

The siamese looks really cool too. The knife is still very small, so I don't think he will be a problem. He's very friendly to the other fish, he allows them to hide in his hollow log

I hope to find 3"+ SAE's for sale locally, but there's a LOT of stuff on liveaquaria I want to get (plants, fish, inverts, etc). I've found a lot of cool fish sources though.

I've read multiple different opinions, but most people say they do well in groups. Liveaquaria says keep them by themselves or in groups of 5. Thoughts?
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Old 02-08-2013, 12:44 PM #1562
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oh well you could keep a common in a 180 gal for a long time with no problems.

ive never personally owned SAE's but most people seem to keep them in small groups. i usually opt for a bunch of oto cats if i am going algae suckers
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Old 02-08-2013, 01:08 PM #1563
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Well if I get my other 2 emeralds I can get some otos.

I guess I am switching to a new tank soon, so its not really a big deal. I'll just scrape it off for now.
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a little algae is not a bad thing but if you got a huge bloom in a very short period of time it could indicate some toxicity. check your parameters and make sure your nitrates and ammonia levels are in check. the main issue people have is that it is unsightly

its not brown algae is it? green is fine, brown is a general indicator of toxicity.


you can also remove the live stock and wash everything with a VERY low PPM bleach solution. ive heard of people adding it to the tank w/o removing livestock and having no problems but i would never risk that.

every tank will get some amount of algae, its normal. giant blooms are what you need to watch out for.
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120 gallon and some pics of a 55 as well.
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nice, did you just make an indoor pond? i think that is what i am going to do for my next turtle set up.

oh, do you know if bog turtles are illegal to own nationally? ive never seen them available in any capacity and i know they are endangered
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a little algae is not a bad thing but if you got a huge bloom in a very short period of time it could indicate some toxicity. check your parameters and make sure your nitrates and ammonia levels are in check. the main issue people have is that it is unsightly

its not brown algae is it? green is fine, brown is a general indicator of toxicity.


you can also remove the live stock and wash everything with a VERY low PPM bleach solution. ive heard of people adding it to the tank w/o removing livestock and having no problems but i would never risk that.

every tank will get some amount of algae, its normal. giant blooms are what you need to watch out for.
It just added a light green tint to my glass. It looks kind of like tear drops on the inside of the glass. None of the fish are acting odd though, they are all happy as can be.

I've got a new feeding trick. I hand the frozen block of worms/shrimp to the lobster and he holds it and eats off of it. He also let's the other fish pick off of it at the same time. He's pretty cool, but he definitely asserted dominance over the little cave I made for him
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probably nothing to worry about then. i would test the water sometime soon anyway just to be safe. its never a bad thing to do regular testing
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Yeah, I planned on taking a water sample to my LFS. They did it free last time, I wouldn't mind paying a bit though. They gave me a full computer print out while I shopped for Bichirs
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Fer why? I'm going out on a limb and saying minimum tank size for this guy should be 500+, not 180.

http://www.liveaquaria.com/product/p...33&pcatid=2533
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Does anyone have recommendations for a tall thin looking plant that would grow high in my 15g tall tank? I would like for it to wave around with water motion.
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Yeah, I planned on taking a water sample to my LFS. They did it free last time, I wouldn't mind paying a bit though. They gave me a full computer print out while I shopped for Bichirs
Amazon sells the full freshwater API kit for like 18-19 bucks. Well worth the money to be able to check at any time.

Also, I hate pleco's and their long stringy **** that gets every where.

Also, Awk, you should get some pool filter sand from home depot, was like 3.xx for 50lbs when I picked mine up. (if you want sand)
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Amazon sells the full freshwater API kit for like 18-19 bucks. Well worth the money to be able to check at any time.

Also, I hate pleco's and their long stringy **** that gets every where.

Also, Awk, you should get some pool filter sand from home depot, was like 3.xx for 50lbs when I picked mine up. (if you want sand)
I'll probably order one of those, definitely seems worth it.

Yeah, plecos don't seem as appealing as Siamese algae eaters.

Damn, that is ****ing cheap for sand. Did you use it as a substrate? How did the fish like it? I've got quite a few bottom dwellers.

AQadvisor ****ing rocks. I've got my 180g all planned out Everything seems to be compatible. 26 fish and I'll only be at 56%

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5x bala shark (haven't decided on this one, with 3 they might eat tank mates but with 5 they wont )
1x Sunburst Fire Lobster
1x Hammers Blue Lobster (HUGE maybe on this one)
What do you guys think of that lineup? I don't have, obviously, most of them yet. They are all compatible as far as temperament, water conditions, and other tank requirements.

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Warning: Black Ghost Knife Fish is not recommended for your tank - it may eventually outgrow your tank space, potentially reaching up to 18 inches.
Note: Blue Botia on rare occasions will reach up to 10 inches in size.
Note: Banded Leporinus may jump - lids are recommended.
Note: Fire Eel may escape - lids are recommended.
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Fer why? I'm going out on a limb and saying minimum tank size for this guy should be 500+, not 180.

http://www.liveaquaria.com/product/p...33&pcatid=2533
More like in the thousands.

Then again they grow kinda slow.
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I agree. With that said, do you guys trust the accuracy of aqadvisor?

I'm stoked for all of them, but that banded leporinus is going to be an awesome focal point.
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