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Old 02-05-2011, 08:37 PM #1
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I was told 4C EYES are worth it if you play a lot of Semi. Anyone that own 4C Eyes on their G6R care to comment?
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Old 02-05-2011, 08:43 PM #2
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not at all. even if you play semi, all guns shoot great without having 4 eyes installed.
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Old 02-05-2011, 08:48 PM #3
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I have 4C eyes in both of my gen5s....

Can't say I really noticed a difference from the stock 2C eyes.

I wanted the "laser" aspect.
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Old 02-05-2011, 08:48 PM #4
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not at all. even if you play semi, all guns shoot great without having 4 eyes installed.
Cool, thanks. $55 saved.
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Old 02-05-2011, 08:56 PM #5
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i say 4 c eyes are only good if u have super fast fingers and shot at like 20bps.
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Old 02-05-2011, 09:31 PM #6
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I've always found 4c eyes to make streams more consitent, so id say they do what their suppose to.
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Old 02-05-2011, 09:42 PM #7
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my 4c eyes made a difference when I put them in my vic.
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Old 02-05-2011, 09:45 PM #8
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I can notice the different been my Edge and my RL.

Edge has 2C, Rl has 4C.
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Old 02-05-2011, 09:56 PM #9
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Just debating on getting it for my G6R.
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Old 02-05-2011, 10:00 PM #10
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I definitely noticed a difference in the consistency of streams while playing semi.
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Old 02-05-2011, 11:49 PM #11
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They don't do anything for you if you play tourneys/fields that ramp. Semi is noticeable
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Old 02-06-2011, 01:56 AM #12
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Definately noticed a consistency improvement in semi with the 4c eyes on my G6R. They work, period . Whether or not thats worth $55 to you or not is all you need to decide.
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Old 02-06-2011, 03:30 PM #13
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Old 02-09-2011, 09:00 AM #14
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im heard f4c eyes makes a stream more steady
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Old 02-09-2011, 09:17 AM #15
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im heard f4c eyes makes a stream more steady
Other people have said the same.
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im heard f4c eyes makes a stream more steady
Welcome to the conversation.

I have 4C in my vice, the vice I just got I think only has 2C (but I still need to find out). If it is only 2C I will be upgrading to the 4 eyes
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Old 02-09-2011, 12:41 PM #17
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Welcome to the conversation.

I have 4C in my vice, the vice I just got I think only has 2C (but I still need to find out). If it is only 2C I will be upgrading to the 4 eyes
I'm assuming 4C Eyes cost $50 everywhere?
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Pretty much about $50.

Here's the thing. There's this misconception that 4C eyes make you shoot faster. They really don't. As many others have said or alluded to, they make your streams of paint more consistent. Most of us look at a timer on our board, etc. and see a bps count. Arbitrarily I'll say that you're shooting and look at your LCD and it says 13 bps. In actuality, you're not shooting a consistent 13bps. You're shooting an average of 13bps over a few seconds. The board measures the trigger pulls, bolt cycling and divides by time. Sometimes you're shooting more and sometimes you're shooting less. With the 4C eyes, you're eliminating cycle time using the second set of eyes to detect the motion of the paint.

This enables you to eliminate unecessary delays (like bolt delay) since the marker knows there's paint settled in the breach and that the bolt is back. It then queues up and cycles the next shot. What this creates is a tighter consistency in the strings you shoot. Whereas before you might have been pulling 13 bps, maybe now you're still technically shooting an average of 13bps, except instead of seeing outliers like 9bps, 16bps, in a one second period, you're seeing 12bps, 13 bps, 13 bps, 14 bps, etc. each second. You'll get a tighter string of paint and better consistency in the string. It may also marginally improve your bps by a second or two but you'll still have a more consistent string. I can notice it in my Vice when I swap down to an Intimidator that only has 2 eyes.

If you're using ramping for tournament play, it's a redundant feature and not needed.
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Old 02-09-2011, 01:24 PM #19
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I'm assuming 4C Eyes cost $50 everywhere?
They are generally priced somewhere around $50-$55 for the standard and another $10 more for the visible laser. I just got the standard 4c.
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Pretty much about $50.

Here's the thing. There's this misconception that 4C eyes make you shoot faster. They really don't. As many others have said or alluded to, they make your streams of paint more consistent. Most of us look at a timer on our board, etc. and see a bps count. Arbitrarily I'll say that you're shooting and look at your LCD and it says 13 bps. In actuality, you're not shooting a consistent 13bps. You're shooting an average of 13bps over a few seconds. The board measures the trigger pulls, bolt cycling and divides by time. Sometimes you're shooting more and sometimes you're shooting less. With the 4C eyes, you're eliminating cycle time using the second set of eyes to detect the motion of the paint.

This enables you to eliminate unecessary delays (like bolt delay) since the marker knows there's paint settled in the breach and that the bolt is back. It then queues up and cycles the next shot. What this creates is a tighter consistency in the strings you shoot. Whereas before you might have been pulling 13 bps, maybe now you're still technically shooting an average of 13bps, except instead of seeing outliers like 9bps, 16bps, in a one second period, you're seeing 12bps, 13 bps, 13 bps, 14 bps, etc. each second. You'll get a tighter string of paint and better consistency in the string. It may also marginally improve your bps by a second or two but you'll still have a more consistent string. I can notice it in my Vice when I swap down to an Intimidator that only has 2 eyes.

If you're using ramping for tournament play, it's a redundant feature and not needed.
Wow!! THANK YOU for that awesome, detailed explanation.
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