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Old 12-23-2010, 02:24 AM #1
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Airsoft player looking into Paintball

Hey there. I've played airsoft for over a decade now, but have been intrigued with all the new tactical guns coming out for the paintball scene. I've always liked the realism of airsoft, but I continually get frustrated with relying on your enemy to admit when he's been hit. Paintball does away with this by using paint to make it obvious if someone has been hit or not, but I never liked the giant hoppers and CO2 tanks.

I was wondering if there are any guns out there that are a crossover (hybrid) of the best of airsoft and paintball? What I'm looking for are realistic guns (M4 or whatever) that store paintballs within magazines or a similar loading system, and incorporate the CO2 tanks in a similarly concealed manner.

I figured that if they started making paintballs and markers that fired balls that are half the diameter of current PB rounds, then that would allow them to be stored in mags and clips (like airsoft), but still leave paint on the target when hit (like PB). Maybe this already exists and I'm just not aware of it? If so, could you please tell me where I can learn more about this "hybrid" sport?
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Old 12-23-2010, 03:06 AM #2
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uhh check out GI milsim (i think) and Rap4

also yes. RAM is kind of like paintball as it uses small paint pellets. The markers are highly realistic (in my view) as they eject a cartridge with every shot
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Old 12-23-2010, 03:37 AM #3
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Try looking into Tiberius also. They make paintball guns that use clips. They fire regular-sized (.68 caliber) paintballs, which are easier to come by than the smaller stuff. Hope this helps.
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Old 12-23-2010, 06:23 AM #4
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yup Rap4 or Tiberius Arms. Inspire has a nice line or a Tippmann x7 too if you change you mind about the co2 tank being enclosed in the gun
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Old 12-23-2010, 08:30 AM #5
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Some of the Tippmann carver one guns look very realistic. Yeah, Tiberius guns are great too
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Old 12-23-2010, 10:09 AM #6
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I have seen pistol replicas with .43 paint and the small co2 cartridges. I have also seen magazine fed rifle replicas. As for the the big tanks, you can alway uses a remote line.
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Old 12-23-2010, 02:21 PM #7
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• Sell your airsoft junk and go paintball.
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Old 12-23-2010, 02:48 PM #8
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They sell 6mm Paintballs for airsoft guns.

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Old 12-23-2010, 02:58 PM #9
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i think there's a magazine conversion kit for some of the tippmann's too in addition to RAP4 and Tiberius. although you aren't carrying a lot of paint when you go with a magazine style marker. the most you're gonna carry is around 20 paintballs per mag.
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Old 12-23-2010, 11:12 PM #10
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They sell 6mm Paintballs for airsoft guns.

Like This:
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Ever clean up after a jam? Airsoft guns don't work like paintball guns.
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Old 12-24-2010, 03:29 AM #11
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Thanks for the responses.

It seems like the Rap4 guns are closest to what I'm interested in. The .43 cal series is kind of what I described in my first post. I'm glad someone out there is starting to make smaller paintballs and more realistic guns.

Unfortunately, this stuff is much pricier than I was hoping for, but the way things are going, I can probably wait a few years and get similar equipment at a fraction of the cost.
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One thing to consider with the smaller balls, you suffer a rather significant performance decrease. Considerably less range. It's not a contest on which fake gun looks the most like some other gun, it's a contest to see who can get paint on the other guy first. I've seen a player with the expensive RAP4 gun get out performed over and over again by a player with a bright red $50 walmart special .68 cal gun.

Paintball guns tend to be more real than airsoft if you think about it. Every square inch on most guns is fully functional and there for a reason. The hoppers and air tanks? More ammo, more shot capacity, quick and easy reloads. When the Army wanted an air powered launcher it got an external air tank (the FN 303). If a SMG could be given the firepower and ammo capacity of a SAW by slapping an air tank and hopper on the thing militaries all over the world would do it in a heart beat.
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yeah but airsoft is nothing like paintball. similar concept but personally i played airsoft once and was like this is just like paintball with less ammo and more cheaters. do yourself a favor and try scenario paintball itll be worth it i promise. Dont get me wrong airsoft is fun if you dont have cheaters because of the scenario's one can come up with but paintball is much more fun IMO.
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Old 12-24-2010, 06:51 AM #14
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Just a word of warning: .68 cal is the industry standard. .43 cal is kind of an oddball in the paintball world, meaning that .43 paintballs aren't sold in most stores (you'd have to buy them online), and a lot of fields wouldn't let you play with them (since a lot of fields require you to use paint bought there, and insurance regulations don't allow for that type of paint to be used since it hasn't been tested as extensively as .68). Good news is for the past year or so the industry has been pushing a new .50 cal paint, which is likely to gain acceptance at a lot of fields in the coming time.

One other thing to possibly consider, if you just don't like the idea of the hopper and the tank being on the gun, you could do a couple things. For the hopper, there's a product called a Q Loader, it's a hopper that's about the size and shape of a pod, but it can be mounted anywhere on your gun, not just on the top. For the tank, you could buy a remote line, which is like an air hose you attach to your gun, and you have the tank in your vest. Alternatively, you can buy a 12 gram adapter. This lets you use 12 gram CO2 cartridges in any CO2 capable marker. These only about 3 inches long, but you only get about 15-20 shots from one, and they cost about 50 cents each and are not reusable.
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Milsig makes great magazine-fed Milsim stuff like you're looking at, it's made in Canada instead of China, and Rap-4 tends to copy a lot of their products from them. I'd give them a look. http://www.milsig.ca/store/index.php...=index&cPath=1

BUT, as other people have said, paintball tends to be more function than form when compared to airsoft. Using any marker that has both performance and ergonomic compromises like the ones you're looking at is going to handicap your play, especially if you're still learning the ropes of the game. I would recommend looking instead to one of Tippmann's many guns or possibly something from BT. They're reliable as the sun, look the part of a real gun, and are fantastic beginner guns. Not only that, but a Project Salvo, BT Omega, BT Delta, or Tippmann X7 would cost a fraction of a RAP-4 or Milsig gun.
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One thing to consider with the smaller balls, you suffer a rather significant performance decrease. Considerably less range. It's not a contest on which fake gun looks the most like some other gun, it's a contest to see who can get paint on the other guy first. I've seen a player with the expensive RAP4 gun get out performed over and over again by a player with a bright red $50 walmart special .68 cal gun.

Paintball guns tend to be more real than airsoft if you think about it. Every square inch on most guns is fully functional and there for a reason. The hoppers and air tanks? More ammo, more shot capacity, quick and easy reloads. When the Army wanted an air powered launcher it got an external air tank (the FN 303). If a SMG could be given the firepower and ammo capacity of a SAW by slapping an air tank and hopper on the thing militaries all over the world would do it in a heart beat.
I can't believe it took this many posts before someone said this.

Seriously, go with a mil-sim gun, use a tank and hopper. Or unless you want to go with limited paint play, you should use tiberius arms. They use magazines as well as small co2 cartridges so you don't have a tank or hopper.

Plus, if you use first strike rounds, you can shoot much farther then normal paint. So that's the plus with tiberius arms.
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Milsig makes great magazine-fed Milsim stuff like you're looking at, it's made in Canada instead of China, and Rap-4 tends to copy a lot of their products from them. I'd give them a look. http://www.milsig.ca/store/index.php...=index&cPath=1

BUT, as other people have said, paintball tends to be more function than form when compared to airsoft. Using any marker that has both performance and ergonomic compromises like the ones you're looking at is going to handicap your play, especially if you're still learning the ropes of the game. I would recommend looking instead to one of Tippmann's many guns or possibly something from BT. They're reliable as the sun, look the part of a real gun, and are fantastic beginner guns. Not only that, but a Project Salvo, BT Omega, BT Delta, or Tippmann X7 would cost a fraction of a RAP-4 or Milsig gun.
actually, its more like they are copying each other sort of. milsig and rap4 used to be together, but milsig decided to go on their own. but, rap4 usually comes out with stuff way before milsig does. besides, not everything on a milsig is made from china. i believe their 20 round mag parts are from china. i will have to look at the milsig youtube channel again just to make sure.
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if you're ok with doing some work, find a cheap but durable airsoft gun body (whatever you want), then get the carver-one with the e-grip (or reaction/rebound trigger setup is better if they have it) and put the carver one inside of the airsoft gun body. cut another hole where the feedneck of the carver one comes out or build a box mag out of lock-lid tupperware and a vlocity jr. feedgate, then get a hose like thingy (like a warp feed) to go up and into the feedneck hole thingy. done. 200 round box mag, whatever gun you want. still totally real more or less... then you can cut an area out of the stock and get an air-thru system for the gun and put the airtank into the bakc of the gun and use it as a stock, or put it in the gun's stock and it can work that way, too.

13ci tanks are good if you're going to shoot 200 rounds MAX per game...because after that, they go *phut*... for more info, check out www.undergroundmodshop.com

at this point you may need to invest in a 3 point sling lol.

theres also a company called arrowpoint or something like that, which custom builds tippmann guns into replica WW2 or Vietnam war guns. or other more realistic than a paintball gun guns...
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One thing to consider with the smaller balls, you suffer a rather significant performance decrease. Considerably less range. It's not a contest on which fake gun looks the most like some other gun, it's a contest to see who can get paint on the other guy first. I've seen a player with the expensive RAP4 gun get out performed over and over again by a player with a bright red $50 walmart special .68 cal gun.

Paintball guns tend to be more real than airsoft if you think about it. Every square inch on most guns is fully functional and there for a reason. The hoppers and air tanks? More ammo, more shot capacity, quick and easy reloads. When the Army wanted an air powered launcher it got an external air tank (the FN 303). If a SMG could be given the firepower and ammo capacity of a SAW by slapping an air tank and hopper on the thing militaries all over the world would do it in a heart beat.
why doesnt everybody understand this?
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Look at BT guns, not tippmanns. My favorite is the BT TM15, check it out on ANS Gear.

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Also with the TM-15, you should really get the TM Series Rip clip. its a side fed electric hopper that is built specifically for these guns. Its $80 and you can get low profile hoppers for it if you want. You should do some research on the TM-15, i think you would like it.
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