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Old 01-17-2011, 06:17 PM #1
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Mortars

Has anybody completed a mortar yet Im talking at least 250 ft or more.
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Old 01-17-2011, 10:13 PM #2
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Adam uses one to great effect actually. SSBlackangel on here. He was lobbing rounds onto the ramps when they were dropping during the beach landings at ION.
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Old 01-18-2011, 08:54 AM #3
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Capitol Offense's AT gent built one last fall. ODX use to have one of the Scepter M100 Mortars we our team owner shipped it off. There are several others I have heard of.

A mortar is nothing but an Air cannon with a bi pod. There's nothing complicated about making one. They just have limited usfullness. You can load them with paintballs, but most of the time we had to hit a hard surface or the rounds werent breaking. Now that was with hard shell paint, a thinner shell may have better effect. You can load them with Nerf's but you have to have a ref watching and calling people out in the blast radius which can be problematic, or you can do paint grenades, but you have to get a field owner that will allow that.
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Old 01-20-2011, 10:53 PM #4
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I tried a forum search and got nothing, so I figured I'd just ask:

Has anyone ever made any sort of powder-puffing mortar/LAW round? Something that would burst open on impact with a small but visible cloud of, say, flour or corn starch, yet be light enough to be safe if it landed upon some poor unfortunate's noggin like a scene from a Three Stooges short.

If they flew similarly to a Nerf or sabot of paintballs, these might also be useful in a "Fire for effect" role, so you could at least see if you have the bad guys dialed in or not before you start shooting the good stuff at them.

I have a couple of ideas involving balloons, but I figured I'd see if anyone else has ever tried this approach already before publicly humiliating myself any more than usual.
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Old 01-21-2011, 09:40 AM #5
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Solo cups filled with baby powder and sealed with duck tape? That could give the effect you want, and still be brittle enough not to really knock off a mask or ring somebody's bell
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Old 01-21-2011, 11:53 AM #6
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That's about the size and shape I was thinking, Steve. The challenge is to find a way to make something that weighed no more than a Nerf rocket, would survive the stress of launching, and still be able to burst open visibly on impact without hurting anyone.

Hmmm. A lightbulb just went off. Lemme see if I can come up with something this weekend without my wife asking me awkward questions like:

-"Why are you covered in cornstarch?"
-"Why is the garage covered in cornstarch?"
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Old 01-21-2011, 08:12 PM #7
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I saw a site that used balloons. They used a popsicle stick to close it. Wrapped the end around the stick. Inserted the balloon in a sabot and taped the stick on the outside. You insert the sabot partway into the mortar. Remove the tape. After the sabot leaves the tube the stick will release after a bit. Will leave a stream of paint behind it. The thing wil l be how much to twist it to determine when the paint will start to release. Kind of a VT fuse.
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Old 02-16-2011, 11:50 AM #8
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The only problem launching a grenade like unit from a mortar is if it hits a person it will probably end up hurting. I have done a good amount of research before i built my rocket launcher and find that if your trying to get a good distance, say your 250ft example, then your gonna be using a high air compression that becomes dangerous.
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Old 02-16-2011, 01:03 PM #9
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I was with Adam last year defending gold beach at ION last year. They were operating two type's of mortar. The first one was a compressed air type. I dont know the gentelmans name at the moment. His mortar rounds were the size of a golfball. Those things were traveling. I would say they were at least going over 300 feet.

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The second type of mortar they were using were the sling shot type. What we like to call the poor man's mortar. They can easily braught on Egay for like ten bucks. (UNDER WATTER BALLON SLINGSHOT). With little practise you can get GRAPFRUITE sized ballons filled with paint at least 300 feet in a thirty foot raduis. They are not accurate. I watched this crew actually shooting it at enemy targets at the very near edge of gold beach. They were hiding behind bunkers. That would have been direct fire mode. I cant be 100 sure but there must have been , big time splatter hits.

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Old 02-18-2011, 12:23 PM #10
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Your best source for info would be in the tank-anti tank forum.

http://www.pbnation.com/forumdisplay.php?f=553

Scattered throughout there is HOW to build barrels that shoot stuff such as a mortar. I was putzing around and came up for a configuation for a mortar.

http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.php?t=3501223

Started your response and decided to start a tread over there to discuss it.

Go to:

http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.php?t=3554162

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Old 05-22-2011, 07:44 AM #11
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A good source for well built mortars is 11charlie.com.
The owner, Steve, was in fact served as an 11Charie
(mortarman), as well as an Army Ranger, so I think
you'll find he knows the subject pretty well.

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Old 05-24-2011, 03:34 AM #12
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Ssblackangel has several well-made mortars. If you send him a PM, he might give you the scoop on how to build one like his.
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Old 06-29-2011, 02:55 AM #13
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Old 06-30-2011, 07:05 PM #14
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here is our mortar. visit the mortar weapons section of our forums for more on the mortar.

Basics-

fires 3 inch 7 oz paint balloons 70 yards @ 65 Degrees firing angle

fires nerfs almost triple that (waste of time though)

fires 2 inch paint balloons around 150 yards @ 65 degrees firing angle

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Old 07-01-2011, 12:01 AM #15
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Here's a view of the 11Charlie mortar for your
review. Note, this is constructed entirely of
metal. It breaks down into three easy to carry
pieces, just like it's real life counterpart. One of
the intersting features is that fact that you can
quickly switch the internal barrels so that you
can launch either 'Nerf' rounds, 11 Charlie foam
tipped rounds or liquid filled balloons, depending
on what your fire mission calls for. This system
is designed to run on low pressure, as opposed
to high pressure. This means the system can be
charged using a bike pump, or a regulated CO2
or HPA air tank, which has been fitted with a
std. bike tube fill valve. Launch control is via a
propritary push button valve, not a sprinkler valve
or brass ball valve. This means consistant shots
with a + or - 10 foot range accuracy with every
shot.

Finally, the maker, who was himself a 11 Charlie
(mortarman), as well as Army Ranger, also offers
a cheaper, smaller/lighter more portable version
for those looking for many of the same high quality
features at a lower price. If you're interested in
more details about that model, please drop me
a line or give my office a call.




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Old 07-22-2011, 06:27 PM #16
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There is a team in washington state that built a mortar system as well...... Downside was ut was powered via dive tank so mobility was compromised. But these guys were actually mortar men in the army. So there efficiency and accuracy was incredible! They even cooked their own paint and made the rounds out of surgical tubing. They also used paper solo cups with slits cut around the top rim as salvos. Actually pretty amazing to watch these dudes in action. Range was around 120-150 yards down range.
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Old 07-22-2011, 08:32 PM #17
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mortars

That sounds awesome! Mobility shouldn't
be that much of a factor, in as much as the
mortars typically don't get placed on the
edge of the area you control, but back a
bit.

Got an e-mail for that group of 11 Charlies?
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Old 07-23-2011, 11:55 AM #18
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Unfortunately I don't I could check around and maybe find them...... Their team name is AFL out of FT. Lewis in Washington state maybe that might help you
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