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Old 12-13-2010, 04:18 PM #1
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Thread of the Week: If you were a Pro player, which would you choose

OK, you are Joe Pro, a professional paintball player who has played pro for a few years and believes he has a few years of playing pro still in front of him.

The season is over and you are unsure about your options for the following year. The team you were on went kaput. You are lucky enough to have a few options, though:

Option 1
The team tells you that everything will be free, from batteries to food at events. However, because of budget constraints, the team will be practicing locally and will have to try to convince other teams to come play them, instead of going out to other teams.

Option 2
The team tells you that not everything will be free. You will have to provide your own batteries and pay for your own food at events. Plus you will have to pay $100 per national event. However, the team plans on about a half dozen trips to practice other teams.

Option 3
Same as Option 2 but, instead of using the extra money on the practice budget, the team is going to use it to recruit a one or more 'top shelf' players to join the team to make it better.

Option 4
Keep looking. It has to be free, with 100% committment to getting the best practices and players to be worth your time (and worth not playing with your friends).

What do you decide and why?
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Old 12-13-2010, 05:02 PM #2
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I'd pick Option 2 - almost free, you get to practice against other top talent from time to time to keep you game sense current and you can practice your skills locally (Snapping, laning, general conditioning, etc..)
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Old 12-13-2010, 05:26 PM #3
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Option 1 or nothing. Batteries aren't cheap.

In all seriousness, I'd go with Fox4 on option 2. It's comparatively cheap, and you still get to practice other top teams.
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Old 12-13-2010, 05:55 PM #4
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Option 3, depending on where your home field would be. And, I like the idea of using these two top-shelf players as a foundation/core, as long as they're capable of passing on their knowledge.

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Old 12-13-2010, 06:12 PM #5
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Going into this season of PSP I think I would take option 1- You wont be working the layout, So why not stay home work your skills..
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Old 12-13-2010, 06:13 PM #6
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Option 2 is the most realistic. Not all should be for free! You lose the value of appreciation and lean more toward expectation. When the team can no longer accommodate "FREE" a player usually shows his appreciation by quitting! Investing something into the team gives a sense of belonging/self commitment!

This may not be the acceptation in some cases but predominantly in most!
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Old 12-14-2010, 10:16 AM #7
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Hybrid of 1 and 2: Keep it local, practice your skills, but still travel once before an event and scrimmage another top level team. Maybe work it out with said top level team(s), where you rotate who goes to what team's home field when. Joe Pro would still need to pay for some things, whether it be batteries, food, what-have-you.
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Old 12-14-2010, 10:40 AM #8
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There are factors that I would have to consider that are not mentioned in those options, such as which team it is, who else plays on it, etc. That would definitely impact my decision.

Just based on that criteria, though, I'd go with option 2 or 3. Practicing other teams is important. Also, it'd be great to have some veterans on the team, but again, it depends on which ones.
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Old 12-14-2010, 10:52 AM #9
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Not to put too fine a point to it, the point of the excercise is to try to see what people value most in a team:

better practices, better/more experienced team mates, money, friends

So, "what team"... the same team, in four otherwise identical dimensions.
Who else played on it... the same people.

But I'd love to read more on your thoughts/considerations.
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Old 12-14-2010, 11:52 AM #10
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I pick Option 2.

Option 1: by getting everything completely for free a player can lose sight of the goal and that is to improve as a player and a team. also if next year comes around and FREE is not an option that player will either not play or be a real pain about paying.
Option 3: you may be able to recruite 1 or 2 top shelf players who would without a doubt help your players learn more and team learn more but not spending that money to travel and practice other top shelf teams you may not be keeping up with the curve and might lose intangables that can only be practiced through practicing outside your comfort zone of teams.
Option 4: selfish, unrealistic, good luck
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Old 12-14-2010, 03:09 PM #11
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Not to put too fine a point to it, the point of the excercise is to try to see what people value most in a team:

better practices, better/more experienced team mates, money, friends
i want it all
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Old 12-14-2010, 04:20 PM #12
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So the team you played for is done and you have 3 teams you could go to while the fourth option is to look for other teams... I'm confused can you define kaput?
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Old 12-14-2010, 04:22 PM #13
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The reason I ask is because the fourth option mentions not playing with friends however the team you were on went kaput wouldn't this suggest you are not playing with friend in any of the options.
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Old 12-14-2010, 04:24 PM #14
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Well I guess when it all comes down to it, people want better/more productive practices. Anyone who has ever played sports has probably heard "you play how you practice." Better, quality practices leads to better play in real games. So, I guess whatever option you choose, it all means nothing unless you can get some quality practices before events.
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Old 12-14-2010, 04:28 PM #15
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Kaput means dead. The pro team you were on is dead.

As for friends... good point. But, just because your pro team died doesn't mean there aren't teams of friends you would have fun playing with.

Or, of course, not playing at all. Regardless of whether or not there is a team with your friends on it, playing pro takes up a lot of time. Maybe if you can't do it 'right', you'd rather not do it at all.
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To expand on to why I would want choice one, well I am greedy, no seriously, Do teams now have to travel to practice with other teams? I would think that it would hurt you more than help you to be playing matches on a layout that you will not see at the event. If you can be supplied top of the line gear to work on skills at home such as reading a field and snap shooting that would be more benificial for the team. Atgain this is going with PSP rules that have been annouced.
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2 without a doubt.
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Old 12-14-2010, 04:56 PM #18
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Option 2 then, I hate when my college team just wants to play against each other. Staying with friends is probably really important at the pro level. I feel lucky I can go see my teammates when ever I want while at school. And like you said there isn't much time for anything eles while playing pro, lol I wouldn't know.

Option four, is appealing because you really might just find something good. I have always been the type to shop around before buying.
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Old 12-14-2010, 05:16 PM #19
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option 2 for sure.
that leaves plenty of time for internal practices with at least 1 travel practice before events for some pro /pro scrims.

that bought talent (3) is no guarantee for success. factor in that the rest of the team is paying out of pocket for some thngs while another player is brought (bought) in could cause some serious distress within the team itself.



but jeff, you left out option 5, realize that you are the **** and whore yourself out to the highest bidder
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To expand on to why I would want choice one, well I am greedy, no seriously, Do teams now have to travel to practice with other teams? I would think that it would hurt you more than help you to be playing matches on a layout that you will not see at the event. If you can be supplied top of the line gear to work on skills at home such as reading a field and snap shooting that would be more benificial for the team. Atgain this is going with PSP rules that have been annouced.

why is this layout thing such a big deal. There were days of paintball with out layouts being released and teams still traveled to practice other teams. The fact is your playing against better players/team and that helps your team become better. You can only snap shoot against each other and pie plates so much. How can you read a field if you dont play other good teams to see how its actually playing out. d1 teams play different then a d3 team and pros play it different then a d1. Its worth it to travel every so often and play teams regardless.

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OK. Its not that I feel its a big deal. I was just thinking that you can play locally and get the work you need instead of traveling all over the place to do it...
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