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Old 11-03-2010, 01:54 PM #1
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Eigenring

Looking into getting one...anyone tried it? Results? Is it basically just Lurker's version of the Top Hat Mod?

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Old 11-03-2010, 02:29 PM #2
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yes thats all it is, his version of the top hat mod, and it probably safer than putting tape in a marker as well
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Actually, it is much different than a normal top hat mod - it's spring loaded, so as the pressure in the chamber drops, the chamber shrinks.

The ring happens to move backwards at the same time the ball is exiting the barrel, which is why we discovered it cancels some recoil.
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Old 11-03-2010, 03:12 PM #4
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thats pretty neat, it sounds like the best way to reduce kick
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does anyone have any pics of it? I think my firend has one but i cant tell if its that ir the tech t bolt spacer kit
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Old 11-03-2010, 06:08 PM #6
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a spring loaded top hat??? that sounds interesting. i guess that helps the marker keep more consistant at higher rates of fire?
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I'd like to order one but the site doesn't have them available?
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I'd like to order one but the site doesn't have them available?
They will be out tomorrow.... (Sorry, I just couldn't help myself.)


I imagine a vast majority of Lurker's (spare) time and energy have been devoted to the Shocker Eigenbolt as of late. Hopefully once the bolts make it through production we will start getting some updates on the Eingenrings. That being said, are there any updates Lurker?
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I doubt it, Lurker LOVES to pop in & TEASE US! then pop out....... sigh
I'll be on that pre-order though. I missed his great shocker bolt, cause I picked up my Shocker Late in the game!



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Old 11-04-2010, 12:05 PM #10
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I am definitely getting one once they become available.
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The Eigenrings actually are already done, I just screwed up and lost a small box of machined spacers that keep them from flying off the top hat. So I had to get those re done. Luckily I had them laser cut and it only takes a day or so.

There are 2-3 prototypes "in the wild", and I haven't heard any problems with them, they pretty much seem to live up to the (admittedly mild) claims.
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soooooo we can order them?
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The Eigenrings actually are already done, I just screwed up and lost a small box of machined spacers that keep them from flying off the top hat. So I had to get those re done. Luckily I had them laser cut and it only takes a day or so.

There are 2-3 prototypes "in the wild", and I haven't heard any problems with them, they pretty much seem to live up to the (admittedly mild) claims.
**** yeahhhh...... gettem on the site - so I can click "Add to Cart"


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What do they do in terms of efficiency?
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shocker bolt comes first then eigen ring...
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It seems to me like its less of a tophat mod per say that takes up space,
and more of a device that pushes that really low pressure left over air out of the bolt porting more efficiently maybe?
and that spring loaded push also acts to cancell recoil somewhat?

sounds like a cool little gadget!
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Exactly, deathant.


Think of it this way - you want a lot of full whent he chamber is full, but by the time the ball leaves, the left over pressure times volume is the energy you can't use... so this minimizes that "dead energy" as best it can while maximizing the initial energy in the chamber.
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Old 11-06-2010, 12:38 AM #21
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from what i understand, i gathered "helps with shootdown and helps to keep the dump chamber pressures consistent.
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