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Old 10-30-2010, 11:27 AM #1
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The Short and Sweet of 50 Cal

Ok boys so I'm still a little lost on the whole 50 cal movement so here is what I think it is and feel free to post and correct me if I'm wrong:

Advantages:
-Cheaper (People play more)
-Less painful (More universal appeal)
-Lighter guns
-No more pod packs

Disadvantages:
-You shoot less far
-Your markers become obsolete

Now if I'm not mistaken if this is a consumer driven market wouldn't we ALL want to make the push for .50 cal?

Please post your responses respectfully and well thought out. I am not here to troll just get respectful, honest feedback.

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Old 10-30-2010, 12:12 PM #2
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Ok boys so I'm still a little lost on the whole 50 cal movement so here is what I think it is and feel free to post and correct me if I'm wrong:

Advantages:
-Cheaper (People play more)
-Less painful (More universal appeal)
-Lighter guns
-No more pod packs

Disadvantages:
-You shoot far less
-Your markers become obsolete(Except PE)

Now if I'm not mistaken if this is a consumer driven market wouldn't we ALL want to make the push for .50 cal?

Please post your responses respectfully and well thought out. I am not here to troll just get respectful, honest feedback.

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Old 10-30-2010, 12:24 PM #3
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Old 10-30-2010, 03:07 PM #4
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Ok boys so I'm still a little lost on the whole 50 cal movement so here is what I think it is and feel free to post and correct me if I'm wrong:

Advantages:
-Cheaper (will be passed on to the businesses and cost everyone else almost the same)
-Less painful (More universal appeal)
-Lighter tanks
-smaller pod packs

Disadvantages:
-You shoot less far
-Your markers become obsolete(except PE)
-none of your shots break outside of 1-2 bunkers apart
-you need to shoot much more to get it to actually break on target(becomes more expensive)
-no conversion for pump players
-you have to buy new gear which some of us cant afford, so you lose people in the sport
-the thousands you spent on .68 gear will be gone when your old gear has no resale value because only .50 is available
-you support a company of dirty, greasy liars

Now if I'm not mistaken if this is a consumer driven market wouldn't we ALL want to make the push for .50 cal?

Please post your responses respectfully and well thought out. I am not here to troll just get respectful, honest feedback.

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have any of you ever played .50 cal.... they honestly break better then .68 balls because they are a smaller ball therefore are made up of less material and therefore have thinner shells... sure they dont shoot as far but what paintball without adaptation and compensation... i dont even find that a sport when you dont have to do anything to paintball.... what if .50 cal had been the previous industry standard... then we all wouldve said "i hate these .68 balls and guns because i dont have to compensate and they dont break as easily" this would be because the bolts in .50 cal doesnt have to strike the ball nearly as hard therefore extending the life of the bolt and producing a better shot...
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Two more disadvantages I noticed:

1) Because it does hit so lightly, people do not feel the hits. You hit them again and an again and they don't notice it. Usually in rec-ball we depend on the other player calling themselves out since it's unusual to have more than 1 ref on the field.

2) Less fill. .68 has 2 1/2 times the fill of a .50, so the hits are a lot smaller. With cheap paint it looks like someone spit on you.

Just my experience in 1 day of play. I agree with everything else posted so far.

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I too have used it, less material doesn't equal thinner shells, the shells could be twice as thick if they wanted to be. less material does mean less momentum though, which equals less energy transferred which means less breaks over any decent range. If .50 was industry standard, id ***** about switching my gear over, but id be like hey these shoot farther, are more accurate, make much more visible marks, and actually break! and the bolt thing you said doesssnt make a whole lot of sense either.
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Old 10-31-2010, 07:47 PM #8
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they are a smaller ball therefore are made up of less material and therefore have thinner shells...
Wrong. The shell thickness is the same. With the same shell thickness but a smaller diameter sphere, .50 balls have greater structural integrity but less mass which means they do not break as well.

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sure they dont shoot as far but what paintball without adaptation and compensation...
True.

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what if .50 cal had been the previous industry standard... then we all wouldve said "i hate these .68 balls and guns because i dont have to compensate and they dont break as easily"
Balls in .50 have been around for about nineteen years and were tried along with .60, .62, and other calibers. There is a reason born of experience why .68 won out as the industry standard.

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the bolts in .50 cal doesnt have to strike the ball nearly as hard therefore extending the life of the bolt and producing a better shot...
Your bolt is the force that propels the paintball out of your marker? Wow.

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Old 10-31-2010, 10:15 PM #9
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Actually, switch those around and you'd be more right.
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Old 11-01-2010, 01:27 AM #11
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As long as paintball stays alive I could care less what caliber I'm shooting to be honest.
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Actually, switch those around and you'd be more right.
Case in point
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Old 11-01-2010, 09:27 AM #13
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I bought 3 ,50 marker to test them at my field and my conclusion

hits are the samed size as ,68
at 350 fps it's as painfull that a regular gun at 290
air effcience his great!
easy to clean (FM50)

problem: the freaking paintball!! the shape was terrible!!! I haven't seen a ball so bad since a switch from DXS to XO paintball... at 40 feets fireing on a 2 feet by 4 feet tall plywood only 5 or 6 would hit the board all others flying all over the place. (we lowered the fps to 280-290) ,68 XO camotac with a custom 98 that haven't been clean for at least 4 weeks (even the barrel) 19/20 hit the board...

great technologie bad paintballs I was considering switching all my rentals to ,50 but with what I see there's no way I'm gone use GI milsim paintballs!!!
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f13 .50 cal is much better. they just need to manufacture slightly thinner shells
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f13 .50 cal is much better. they just need to manufacture slightly thinner shells
Easier said than done brew.
You're trying to make a hard, yet hollow and perfectly round sphere from the same stuff they use to make gummie bears.
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very easily done.

its called an adjustment in the molding machine.
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very easily done.

its called an adjustment in the molding machine.
If making a gelatin-encased sphere perfectly round and seamless is easily done, why is that not done with .68 now?

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If making a gelatin-encased sphere perfectly round and seamless is easily done, why is that not done with .68 now?

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Would you rather pay $50 for a case of seamed paint or $150 for a box of seamless?
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Would you rather pay $50 for a case of seamed paint or $150 for a box of seamless?
idk about you, but my $50 seamed paintballs shoots pretty straight for me
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If making a gelatin-encased sphere perfectly round and seamless is easily done, why is that not done with .68 now?

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don't change my words *******. i said manufacturing THINNER shells.
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don't change my words *******. i said manufacturing THINNER shells.
unless you have experience in gelatin encapsulation, or any kind of manufacturing, for that matter, i don't think you're really in the position to call anyone a *******. it takes a little more than turning a knob to make an adjustment like that. like, complete retooling, a bunch of tweaks to other parameters, and probably an adjustment to production rate.
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