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Old 06-29-2013, 08:39 PM #1
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What would give my PC the best performance gain?

I assume this is the right place to put this, but if not, please let me know.



I was given a broken Dell XPS Studio 435MT. It now works (the RAM was bad) and I have put other parts in it. As of now, it plays games fairly well. The only stock parts are the processor and the motherboard.

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i7 920 clocked @ 2.66 Ghz
Stock motherboard...CPU socket is LGA 1366 and chipset is X58
6GB 1600 Crucial Ballistix
EVGA GeForce GTX 660 SC 2GB
Corsair CX600 600 Watt PSU
Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB at 7200 RPM's

So my question is, would I be better off getting a new LGA 1366/X58 motherboard and keep the processor I have now and overclock the i7 920 (Dell mobos are locked and you can't OC) or spend the extra money and grab an i5 and a new motherboard?

Its mainly just the more CPU intensive games that my frames drop a bit (closer to 30-40 FPS). So I just need to know if its because of the slower clock speed or if its just because it is a first generation Core i7.

If I would benefit more from getting a new processor and motherboard, I would be getting an i5. I know that they are more than adequate gaming. So then my question would be, how much of a difference would I see between gen 3 and gen 4. If there is a negligible gain for gaming between the two, I'd rather save the money and get the gen 3.
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Old 06-29-2013, 09:18 PM #2
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What he said above^

New Mother Board and keep i7.
Get a better cooler for the CPU and over clock that puppy.

i7 920s can sit at 4ghz air cool no problem.


why downgrade from i7 to i5.. 920 has plenty of power in it. Is/was one of the most sought after CPUs when it came out because how easy and high could overclock with being stable.(I run mine still wont upgrade for awhile)

Could sli if wanted to also.
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Old 06-29-2013, 11:40 PM #4
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What he said above^

New Mother Board and keep i7.
Get a better cooler for the CPU and over clock that puppy.

i7 920s can sit at 4ghz air cool no problem.


why downgrade from i7 to i5.. 920 has plenty of power in it. Is/was one of the most sought after CPUs when it came out because how easy and high could overclock with being stable.(I run mine still wont upgrade for awhile)

Could sli if wanted to also.
My thought process for getting a new mobo and CPU is that the gaming performance between 1st gen and Sandy Bridge was good, so going Ivy Bridge or Haswell would have an even greater boost.

For gaming, you generally won't use more than 4 cores anyway, a lot of games only use two. Almost no games take advantage of hyper-threading, which is what really separates the i7 and the i5.

I may get a new motherboard for now. Just something cheaper so that I can overclock a bit and eventually get a new CPU and mobo.
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Honestly I think you would be best to sit on your money, and wait for something to break/bigger better stuff to come out. You have quite a good set up as is.

With the new console gen, expect bigger and beefier GPUs around the corner. Its what happened with ps2/xbox to ps3/360.

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How are you only getting 2.7 ghz with an i7?
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How are you only getting 2.7 ghz with an i7?
Factory clock speed. This computer started as a Dell, so it still has the factory motherboard. Dell locks their mobos so you can't overclock. That's why I was wondering if I'd be fine getting a new X58 motherboard for my current i7, or if it would make more sense to spend the extra money and get a new CPU and mobo.
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Honestly I think you would be best to sit on your money, and wait for something to break/bigger better stuff to come out. You have quite a good set up as is.

With the new console gen, expect bigger and beefier GPUs around the corner. Its what happened with ps2/xbox to ps3/360.
With graphics cards, as of now I plan on hanging on to the 660. I just recently got it (probably a poor move on my part with these new systems coming out), but I wanted something better than the Radeon 4670 I had before it. I think I might just get a second 660 and SLI them. Either way, I'd need a new motherboard for that since I only have 1 PCIe x16 slot.
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With graphics cards, as of now I plan on hanging on to the 660. I just recently got it (probably a poor move on my part with these new systems coming out), but I wanted something better than the Radeon 4670 I had before it. I think I might just get a second 660 and SLI them. Either way, I'd need a new motherboard for that since I only have 1 PCIe x16 slot.
You really, really dont need a second 660.
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You really, really dont need a second 660.
Of course I don't NEED it...but I want it lol

That will, of course, be a long way down the road.
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New MB and overclock trust me. You won't see the gains to make worth the cost.. wait a bit. Some nice looking haswells coming out in 2014.
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Looking around, I am having trouble finding a good LGA1366 motherboard for relatively cheap. I'm trying to stay away from used boards, mainly from fear of bent pins.

Due to this, from the boards I have seen, it would be right around $400 for a mobo, which seems outrageous to me and I remember seeing cheaper boards, that are now completely out of stock from what I have seen.

With that amount of money, I could pick up a decent LGA1155 mobo and an Ivy-Bridge i5 3570k and save a bit of money.

Any input? If anyone knows of a cheaper board that would do me well, it would be much appreciated if you helped me out
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I just upgraded my i5 2500k & P8P67 to an i5 4670k and Z87 board. Cost me $270 after tax at Micro Center for the new board and CPU. I have my old stuff sold for $150.

I wouldn't buy a new board for the 920. Newer board will have PCI-Express 3.0 as well. You could sell your old stuff for atleast $100.

You should have went with a 660ti at the very least. Honestly you'd still see a much bigger improvement with a ti, 670/680 770/780 over a new processor.
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Since you can't really get a cheap mobo without buying used. I'd sell the Dell and get a whole new system.

I built my secondary rig (for lan parties) with a 920 OCed to 4.2ghz and it works very well, so if you can ebay a NIB mobo for around $150 I'd do that and get a new graphics card.
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Since you can't really get a cheap mobo without buying used. I'd sell the Dell and get a whole new system.

I built my secondary rig (for lan parties) with a 920 OCed to 4.2ghz and it works very well, so if you can ebay a NIB mobo for around $150 I'd do that and get a new graphics card.
Why do that when you can sell the 920, save that $150 and use that money to get a brand new haswell/ivy setup?

You can't RMA an old *** board off eBay either. Part of the reason for buying new is to have 3 year warranty.
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I've decided that I'm just going to grab a new CPU (most likely Ivy-Bridge i5) and a new motherboard. I probably won't sell anything and just use this CPU and motherboard for a backup PC. My mother is using a Pentium, so I will probably slap my old Radeon 4670 in it and give it to her.

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Good choice but it'd be kind of stupid to go ivy when haswell is about the same price.
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