Do mac 43 valves work on Timmys?

evil snowman · 10-18-2010, 03:22 PM

can anyone show me where the the barbs and hoses would be for setting up in a timmy? i know in the humphrey noids the holes are numbered.

‹GOD› · 10-19-2010, 07:50 PM

IIRC there's a diagram on the side of those MAC solenoids that shows you which ports do what. I'm pretty sure mine had the same layout as a humphrey.

the EPIC /B/TARD1337 · 10-24-2010, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by evil snowman

can anyone show me where the the barbs and hoses would be for setting up in a timmy? i know in the humphrey noids the holes are numbered.

shows you right on the noid

evil snowman · 10-25-2010, 12:55 PM

nice. thank you.
to anyone using these noids with the old 2k2 boards, what pressures and dwell are you running?

cheechhydros · 10-26-2010, 12:46 AM

I have one in my ripper 1 with a tadao led board with a setting of 8 dwell and works great.
I have the 43 on my stormtrooper dragon with a virtue led board with 9 dwell setting and also works great.

evil snowman · 11-04-2010, 03:03 PM

was about to solder a connector to the mac noid, but both wires are black with no markings. my connector has red and black wires(same as humphrey). how do i figure out which wire connect to the mac noid with?

juit · 11-04-2010, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by the EPIC /B/TARD1337

shows you right on the noid

this is a mac 33 24 volt man!

‹GOD› · 11-04-2010, 07:02 PM

It really doesn't matter, the only time it does is when there are other components (like a diode) down line of the connector or a magnet that interacts with the coil. IIRC the MAC noids don't have anything other than a coil.

Jeb101 · 11-08-2010, 07:17 AM

I just got one of these Noids the other day, haven't gotten air through it yet as I'm still waiting for a few parts, but doing a few dry shots (I know it's not good for the noid..) it was quite a bit faster then I anticipated. The draw is a bit higher then the SOB board can supply reliably (outputs only about 800Mah, compared to the 970 this solenoid requires). Modifying the board to supply a higher current by changing the voltage regulator or bypass the on board power by cutting the original V-reg trace and putting a new PSU setup in place, I was able to keep a constant 1A output, or 5W. Once I get the parts I will air it up and post some before and after PSU mod to see how much faster the noid can cycle now that it isint starved for power, and in the end should result in lowered dwell times as there is more of a steady current going to it.

BTW, this is also part of a battery mod, I replaced the stock battery with a 7.4V 990MaH LiPo RC battery, giving me about 20000 shots with a spyder

tjs0349 · 11-08-2010, 12:26 PM

You should post a tutorial for those of us who can solder and follow directions :-)

Jeb101 · 11-08-2010, 02:15 PM

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You should post a tutorial for those of us who can solder and follow directions :-)

Once I get all the parts, and get revise the PSU, see if I can't get it smaller, and also add short circuit prevention.. Problem is though, this will work on all boards, but brains are going to be needed to know what trace(s) to cut as there are many many boards out there..

I'll post one up for a 5V output and 9V (Same thing on both, just need to change the LM for 9V version and different capacitors.)

Currently I have a Spyder Virtue Board as the heart of a Spimmy project I am working on, bringing me to the point of making a freaking power supply... haha

‹GOD› · 11-08-2010, 11:27 PM

Cycling the solenoid without air isn't any worse for it than cycling it with air. It actually doesn't wear as many internal parts when there's no air.

the_great_turd · 11-09-2010, 07:38 PM

hey can any one tell me if those was noids will work trouble free with a was board from a nme. ty

Deathwish_DW · 11-09-2010, 07:42 PM

Wow! I didn't know anyone would go so in depth.. :d

Glad those who picked some up from me are making use of them

GJ Pain · 11-09-2010, 08:17 PM

Sorry, I have to.

Any noticeable difference? Other than running different dwells (I can't feel the difference in .2ms dwell change), is there any benefit to sticking one of these in your timmy? Like longevity/life or speeds?

I feel like its fixing whats not broken.

tjs0349 · 11-09-2010, 11:19 PM

They are capable of much higher cycles per second over the stock noid.

Jeb101 · 11-10-2010, 07:34 AM

They are also much better solenoids, faster, and better build quality... They do require about 1W more then the Humphrey node they come with stock, but most boards should be able to run them, might just need to up the dwell if you can't provide enough current to make it cycle properly..

Cheers,
JB

TnKiLlEr · 11-10-2010, 01:01 PM

sooo are they a direct match for gen 4 timmys also then as far as the barbs and hoses go?

juit · 11-10-2010, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by TnKiLlEr

sooo are they a direct match for gen 4 timmys as well then as far as the barbs and hoses go?

nop U will need to mod the grip frame a little, but they work great

tjs0349 · 11-10-2010, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeb101

They are also much better solenoids, faster, and better build quality... They do require about 1W more then the Humphrey node they come with stock, but most boards should be able to run them, might just need to up the dwell if you can't provide enough current to make it cycle properly..

Cheers,
JB

The stock Humphrey Alias solenoid requires .55 watts. These take 4.7. That's a lot more than a 1 watt diff...

tjs0349 · 11-10-2010, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by the_great_turd

hey can any one tell me if those was noids will work trouble free with a was board from a nme. ty

No, they don't I have three NMEs all with the stock WAS board. I bought several of these solenoids and they will not work with the stock NME WAS board.