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Old 09-24-2010, 08:09 PM #22
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Go for the mini they do not require much maintenance. Most people own ego's because they do not know anything about basic maintenance for a marker. I can probably take apart an angel and clean it and put it back together in 7 -10 min and I'm 17 and I still have the patience to sit for 7 min and learn simple maintenance. The angel only has 13 or 14 o-rings.

And the Dm's require more maintenance than a ego or any other marker.

The first run of mini's had problems I would go for a v2 or v3 mini. I heard the dp g4's or spec-r's were a good marker ask chuck about them. If you are thinking about an angel ask jay or bob on angel owners.

Or if you want an invert mini you can get them pretty cheap on here, Plus with the smart parts marker issue the only problem I have had was the hose's but after I fixed that the gun worked well for a year without maintenance plus ions go for about $50-$100 dollars and are really great marker's I don't see why people do not like them I think they say they are bad because of what other people say.

Also its good to have an ion right now all of the parts that cost like 50-190 for an ion are 75% off right now.

>implying Angels are easier to tech than DM's
>implying Mini's can compare to an Ego


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Old 09-24-2010, 08:47 PM #23
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Well sure the mini is good you think its bad? Its ok if you like to follow what everyone else has at your field.

And I'm implying that the mini is an overall good gun not everyone has to own an ego7-10.

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Length: 531mm
Height: 216mm
Width: 26mm
Weight: 906g / 1.99 lbs

Features

Ultra-Lightweight Monoform Body
Deftek Offset Feed Tube
Flush-Fitting Eye Covers
Integrated Rammer Housing
Integrated FRM
Cure Bolt
Zick Rammer and Rammer Cap
Stepped Valve Chamber and Valve Guide
High-Flow Valve
Q-Block New 1-Piece Dual QEV block
Light-weight Aluminum Regulator Pistons
Superior Coil Spring Regulator Design
Dual Trigger Sensing Board
Duel Instrument Grade Ball-Raced Trigger
Magnetic Trigger Return
Skinny-Fit Co-Molded Rubber E-Star Grips
T-Slot Rail Mounting System
Major Tournament Preset Modes
Capped and Uncapped Semi and Ramping Modes
9 Debounce Modes
Direct-Acting Solenoid
Black-on-White Transflective LCD Display
Swivel In-Line Regulator
Lever Operated Clamping Feed
Shaft II 2-Piece 14 0.693 Barrel
On/Off/Purge System
Lower Cyclic Mass
Less Kick
Quieter Shot
Improved Efficiency
Low Profile Break-Beam Eyes
New Clam-Shell packaging
Tool Tube Hex Key Set
Looks like the 07,09,10 models. different milling in previous and newer models. Only changed from 06-07 drastically.


Invert mini:

THE INVERT MINI: Fast, light, tight, and ... tiny!

* Weighing in 1.99 lbs (including barrel, ASA, 9volt battery and regulator) the Invert Mini? might be THE Lightest & Tightest electronic marker available
* NEW patented proprietary P.C.P. (Pressure Controlled Poppet?) operating system
* NEW patented proprietary MINI Regulator/ASA
* NEW patented proprietary Slipstream solenoid
* Break Beam Anti-Chop Eyes Standard
* Multi-mode (NXL, PSP, NPPL & Millennium) firing capability with easy tournament lockout
* Clamping feed-neck with Ion (Smart Parts)/ICD threads
* "Cocker" threaded barrel
* No hoses to crimp or break!
* Initial production colors will be polished finish Black, Red, Blue, Silver Dust, or Olive Dust
* One year limited warranty

Ego has been running the same crap for 3 years now.

Invert mini's are simpler than ego's if not the same .
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Old 09-24-2010, 09:12 PM #24
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Well sure the mini is good you think its bad? Its ok if you like to follow what everyone else has at your field.


Ego has been running the same crap for 3 years now.

Invert mini's are simpler than ego's if not the same .
the Mini IS bad, constantly breaking down and giving owners a hell of a time

as for the the Ego putting out the same thing for 3 years; why would you change the most effective tournament gun for the past 5 years?
and what on the Mini has changed?
at least Ego's worked when they were first released

I personally shoot a Marq and a Creed, two of the less popular guns at my field, way to try to move the discussion to a personal insult too buddy
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Old 09-24-2010, 09:23 PM #25
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The people with mini's breaking down are the ones that do not have the knowledge or patience to sit down for 5 or 10 min and take the gun apart and replace the o-rings.

After the next 2 years or so I hope people realize they are paying an extra 1000 for different milling and a different logo on the ego.

And mini has fixed the problem they had when they were first released its kind of the same thing how the Angel A1 had the 2006 problem when they made the angels in china or japan I cant remember. But they fixed that problem in 2007 and still today during 2010 people are saying angels suck because of the one problem they had back in 2006.

I'm not saying ego's suck I'm just saying that mini's are not bad guns to ego's or dm's

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Old 09-24-2010, 09:41 PM #26
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A1's never chop paintball's when setup properly all of the angels I have owned even the older models have not chopped any paintball at all or have I heard much complaints of people chopping paintballs. And if you got the right ion setup it would be the same results.





I own the joy now and the white/red one is my older angel just so you can see how they shoot click on the images.

Problem with the videos it says specified media doesn't exist, But right below that you should see the pictures of the guns just click on those and the video will start.

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Old 09-24-2010, 09:46 PM #27
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Ill sell u a mini $100 pm me if ur interested.... Works good almost new....
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Old 09-25-2010, 12:21 AM #29
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A1's never chop paintball's when setup properly all of the angels I have owned even the older models have not chopped any paintball at all or have I heard much complaints of people chopping paintballs. And if you got the right ion setup it would be the same results.
cool. my dm7 and shocker don't chop and i didn't have to do ****.
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i agree with having a mini around. i played with one for years before i got my marq and still pull it out from time to time. they are nice affordable quality guns. now if you want something a little higher priced go with an ego or a bob long marq series. i have had not one problem with my mini at all.
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cool. my dm7 and shocker don't chop and i didn't have to do ****.
Angels are simply the most advanced gun out in the market. Once its set perfectly you don't have to do much maintenance to it.
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i agree with having a mini around. i played with one for years before i got my marq and still pull it out from time to time. they are nice affordable quality guns. now if you want something a little higher priced go with an ego or a bob long marq series. i have had not one problem with my mini at all.
Mini's are not bad guns I do not know why people base it off of the first year when they had problems they fixed that problem 3 years ago and people still think thats going on.
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Angels are simply the most advanced gun out in the market. Once its set perfectly you don't have to do much maintenance to it.
they were the most advanced gun back in say, 2000-2001. since then WDP has lagged on the technological curve.

when PE put out the EGO5, 05 Speeds still had no eyes. in fact they used to be the only guns without eyes on the market. WDP has played catchup at best.
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Old 09-25-2010, 10:46 AM #34
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Actually 05 speeds did have laser eyes. They did have a ball detent problem tho.

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It's cool I hope the person who made this thread finds the right gun.
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Old 09-25-2010, 05:30 PM #37
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i have a blue 09 ion
nice gun.
only problem is that the board likes to act flaky sometimes but a repalcement is only about thirty five bucks
ION- $200
comes with a 14" carbon fiber stiffi barrel-$65
Black nitrus tank 45- $70
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This isn't bst.
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i have a blue 09 ion
nice gun.
only problem is that the board likes to act flaky sometimes but a repalcement is only about thirty five bucks
ION- $200
comes with a 14" carbon fiber stiffi barrel-$65
Black nitrus tank 45- $70
Halo b ripdrive hopper $80
imm asking for 200
this isnt bst
no such thing as an 09 ion
nitrus? this isnt auto racing
halo's are worth $30 used
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ego's or mini would be legit.

ive owned a angle a1 fully upd, w/magno setup, and etc. and it still didnt shoot really good. and OMFG!!!!! you will not believe how many times it broke down on me. and it is very hard to get parts! trust me i would know!
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WOW thanks for the fast responses!!! Ill probably go with an invert or the dye7 or ego ill take a look at them now!budget is up to 500 no more then that though....just because if i dont put a cap on it i will go over board! haha
08 egos or dye guns are in that range, depending on where you live you will have parts. You can also check out 05-06 timmies, Best bob long markers require lil to no maintenance.. but since you want lil to no maint., id say go with a timmy or ego. as dye and marqs can be a lil dramatic if you dont have a manual. oh and stay away from ANGELS! worst marker ive shot.
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