MSXL 2011 Suggestions

gameover718 · 09-09-2010, 08:35 PM

The 4 events would favor for everyone. I think the idea will work.

Reptar2005 · 09-09-2010, 09:40 PM

Is MSXL going to increase the cap on teams per each division? This is another concern for the series.

Tapper · 09-09-2010, 09:54 PM

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Is MSXL going to increase the cap on teams per each division? This is another concern for the series.

Curious, Why would this be a concern? 16 Race to 4 teams takes about 10 hrs. Its hard enough to find host that can provide 2 XBall fields. That's rolling matches with very short breaks.

We only hit 16 teams 1 time for D4 never got close D3

nichonitro · 09-09-2010, 10:04 PM

How about OFFICIAL msxl photographer right here.

this is for suggestions right? lol

underpressure69 · 09-09-2010, 10:08 PM

When will this be up on appa

XshockadoctaX · 09-09-2010, 10:16 PM

haha robbie give it time to be on appa.

and i like the stretched out season. i know that money and time to recoup was an issue with BC this year. plus it gives teams the chance to attend PSP events as well if they would like to do so. My only concern though would be generating enough money to send the teams to cup and stuff. maybe five events

as far as events go, keep it in the mid-south!!! best idea ive heard all thread. My vote on venues goes to CHF, Asylum, PG/GAS...., and Owensboro of course. Mid south is a big plus

ive been with the series since the beginning and love seeing it grow. Keep it up Darrin. Text me if you want some input from me.

mrof · 09-10-2010, 10:27 AM

i would say start it earlier cancel the indoor events and do the first event in mid feb either at asslyum bec they have turf and a new indoor opening if its really bad or go as far south as possible where the high at that time may be 50 or so and then you have more time to squeez in 1 event per mo with possibally a month off in the middle for chicago

teamsilentassassins · 09-10-2010, 10:49 AM

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i would say start it earlier cancel the indoor events and do the first event in mid feb either at asslyum bec they have turf and a new indoor opening if its really bad or go as far south as possible where the high at that time may be 50 or so and then you have more time to squeez in 1 event per mo with possibally a month off in the middle for chicago

That sounds like a terrible idea for a lot of reasons. 1 event per month is exactly what most people don't want, so that's out. Whether indoor or not Feb. is too cold for most tournament paintball players because of brittle paint and such. And you don't want to go any farther south the CHF or N2 because it's mid-south, not south-south. Most of the guys that continuously play the MSXL are northern KY and IN, with some coming from northern TN and southern KY. You have to try and keep it as close to the players as possible, and going way south is not doing that at all. And for those that play MSXL and PSP, which some teams do, only having one month off for Chicago would be terrible because Phoenix and MAO would almost be impossible to pay for unless you have a group of really financially stable players.

c-mack · 09-10-2010, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by teamsilentassassins

That sounds like a terrible idea for a lot of reasons. 1 event per month is exactly what most people don't want, so that's out. Whether indoor or not Feb. is too cold for most tournament paintball players because of brittle paint and such. And you don't want to go any farther south the CHF or N2 because it's mid-south, not south-south. Most of the guys that continuously play the MSXL are northern KY and IN, with some coming from northern TN and southern KY. You have to try and keep it as close to the players as possible, and going way south is not doing that at all. And for those that play MSXL and PSP, which some teams do, only having one month off for Chicago would be terrible because Phoenix and MAO would almost be impossible to pay for unless you have a group of really financially stable players.

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evenpar · 09-10-2010, 01:21 PM

great idea on holding 4 events. more time to get ready and save money in the long run. no need to drop a score, just come out gunning and be ready!
mid south as much as possilbe please!
KP

joewithl · 09-10-2010, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by teamsilentassassins

That sounds like a terrible idea for a lot of reasons. 1 event per month is exactly what most people don't want, so that's out. Whether indoor or not Feb. is too cold for most tournament paintball players because of brittle paint and such. And you don't want to go any farther south the CHF or N2 because it's mid-south, not south-south. Most of the guys that continuously play the MSXL are northern KY and IN, with some coming from northern TN and southern KY. You have to try and keep it as close to the players as possible, and going way south is not doing that at all. And for those that play MSXL and PSP, which some teams do, only having one month off for Chicago would be terrible because Phoenix and MAO would almost be impossible to pay for unless you have a group of really financially stable players.

i think the farther south the msxl goes the more teams it could potentially draw, theres a lot of paintball in FL, GA, and the carolinas and especially with the cfoa not doing so hot these days, it seems to me a lot of teams might be very open to another regional xball league, especially if there is a d2/open division. so i think going farther south would grow the league, and it seems to me this could be done without going 'too' far south

B*FordPRO · 09-10-2010, 02:53 PM

turf at every field and 4k fills.

iTzDoUgiE777 · 09-10-2010, 03:34 PM

For the 4 places I think (In this order maybe?) CHF, Asylum, PG, and AXPS.

teamsilentassassins · 09-10-2010, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by joewithl

i think the farther south the msxl goes the more teams it could potentially draw, theres a lot of paintball in FL, GA, and the carolinas and especially with the cfoa not doing so hot these days, it seems to me a lot of teams might be very open to another regional xball league, especially if there is a d2/open division. so i think going farther south would grow the league, and it seems to me this could be done without going 'too' far south

True, the draw is quite enticing, but the fact remains that this is a Mid-South X-Ball League, and it should remain that way. Start stretching it out too far and it'll be like the PSP. CHF is what, a 7 hour drive for the guys in PG? Ft. Wayne was like, 7-8 for the YJP/Basic guys? I know the one outside Birmingham isn't much better time-wise. We already expanded a little too far past our Mid-South boundaries this year with Ft. Wayne & CHF (no offense to either of those fields), so doing it more so would only make things worse. Just because no one that far south has thought of something similar to the MSXL doesn't mean we have to make up for their inaction. If Florida, Alabama, and Georgia want regional paintball like the MSXL, they need some random field to stand up and build it from the ground up like Darrin did, although we still needs lots of work. It's not about expanding the league into a mini-PSP, it's about learning from our mistakes every year and giving the Mid-South a quality regional Race2 tournament series.

nichonitro · 09-10-2010, 04:09 PM

this is what the mid south is btw. Just so everybody is Clear when you say MID south that is what It is. its a place like the mid west, east coast, west cost. It seems like everyone has there own view what the mid south is

teamsilentassassins · 09-10-2010, 04:19 PM

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this is what the mid south is btw. Just so everybody is Clear when you say MID south that is what It is. its a place like the mid west, east coast, west cost. It seems like everyone has there own view what the mid south is

That's mid horizontally. And that's one person's interpretation. If that were the mid-south, then we should have a tournament in Dalton, Georgia, Poplarville, Alabama, or Baton Rouge, Louisiana, right? Does that even make sense? Not a bit.

ibunkerfulz · 09-10-2010, 04:39 PM

plex was a 12-14 hr drive for 120. chf was 3 hrs. stl was 6hrs. owensboro was 7.5 hrs. we skipped the others. a tourney in georgia or florida(WTF?) would definitely miss the "Mid" part of MSXL and be a seriously long drive for everyone except teams that would only play that event. maybe add an event/use a venue in missouri.

nichonitro · 09-10-2010, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by teamsilentassassins

That's mid horizontally. And that's one person's interpretation. If that were the mid-south, then we should have a tournament in Dalton, Georgia, Poplarville, Alabama, or Baton Rouge, Louisiana, right? Does that even make sense? Not a bit.

Mid south is the southern Midwest, Mid=Midwest. That is was mid south means. It is a real region on a map not just a little saying.

j.m@cc625 · 09-10-2010, 06:56 PM

or u can jus take pictures and enjoy the cheapest xball league around.

this is a suggestion thread. this topic has come up b4. the fact is there are teams that play this league from a wide range the "midsouth" "midwest" w/e. dont complain about this league growing. enjoy the fact that it is.

1dayteam120 · 09-10-2010, 07:55 PM

i like the idea of spacing it out. Also GREAT IDEA DOING THE CHF ONE FIRST. It was hotter as **** at the event, great thinking tapper

MT_BlueReign8 · 09-10-2010, 08:41 PM

Just from scheduling the SEC AA events for the NCPA I have to say I work with many fields in the region many call the Mid - South. I run into many of the same problems Darrin has run into with the MSXL and understand trying to balance for every team as I have 2 teams from South FL that attend every event but until this year were not able to host and the fact our Conference falls into the middle of 2 other NCPA conferences.

That being said the way I have made the SEC schedule is by looking at which/where most teams come from and balancing the schedule around a central location. For the SEC it was north GA as that was dead center of our conference, scheduled 5 events ensuring each section of the conference receives one close event and a 5th event at a central location or a Schools location based on performance.

What this would like for the MSXL (sorry if I am a little off have not really looked at it to hard) would be the central location being Northern Middle Tennessee, and Southern KY or you could build around the fact AXPS is the Championship location.

For those that wanted to start early it would be feasible and this is again just a suggestion.

Late Feb - Ala/GA to ensure warmer weather (we use central GA for the SEC)
April - CHF (MS)
June - PG (Ind)
August - TN Location
Late Sept. Early October - AXPS Championship (KY)

So it would be events in the South, West, North, Central/East, and AXPS.

This ensures each state that is in the so called Mid South as many ppl picture it as receive an event with the exception being Arkansas. OFC it would need to be adjusted to fit the PSP schedule.