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Old 09-02-2010, 12:22 AM #1
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DP Bolt Stick Remedies

Over the past 2 years I've owned about 7 Thresholds (along with a couple G3s), and only a few of them have had the luxury of avoiding bolt stick problems.

Thanks to many threads already on here, along with some of my own findings, I thought it'd be cool to compile them and put a thread together just for DP bolt stick remedies.

The methods below are what I have used in the past, and what I
have established to be helpful when it comes to resolving these issues. All of these are subjective methods, and I hope this thread prospers with advice from others.

Resolutions posted should also be proven methods that the poster has applied themselves and not just "You should try...".

1) Sail Oring (second oring on bolt)
-Replacing this oring in the past has helped a couple times when bolt stick wouldn't surrender to numerous lubing with various quantities. Even the slightest imperfection has been the cause of the bolt failing to seal, leading cycling problems.

-Another helpful method that I've used along with replacing the oring, is the teflon tape mod. http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.php?t=2754012

2) Replacing internal oring
-Although a pain to get out, sometimes the internal oring in the gun can be slightly worn or damaged and cause a bad seal. PERSONALLY, I've only had to do this once to fix some bolt stick issues.

- For replacement orings for the Threshold contact rottensquad -

3) Lubes
- For the most part, Dow 55 is my "Go-To" lube when it comes to maintaining my Threshold. In the past, it's always worked really well in creating a good seal.

-Monkey Poo is also something i recently starting using, and have had nothing but good luck with it. Both Dow 55 and Monkey Poo can be purchased here.

- A while ago I was also using the eclipse gun oil on my G3 and one of my Thresholds. It seemed to work well, but would sometimes throw a little lube into the breech.

- The amount of lube is also EXTREMELY important. Whenever I encounter bolt stick, I always start by removing all of the lube internally along with the bolt and back cap. I'll then get a VERY small amount of whatever lube I decide to use and put a VERY thin coat on the orings only. After that, I take a dab and run it along the inside walls.

4) Maintenance

- Unlike a lot of guns, I typically will relube my marker after every 2-3 weeks (providing I go through a case a weekend). Even if your gun sits for a couple weeks without any use, it's always good to relube before playing beings I've noticed the lube will actually thicken a little and the initial few shots may experience severe bolt stick. Point being: Bring lube with you to the field!


These have always worked for me in the past, but I'm sure many of you have other tips and tricks that work will too. If so, please take the time to post them! There isn't 1 method that works, but rather a series of trial and error using different techniques.


Hope this helps.

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Old 09-02-2010, 12:46 AM #2
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Old 09-02-2010, 12:47 AM #3
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my thoughts exactly. great ideas and ways to prevent that issue
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Old 09-02-2010, 10:15 AM #4
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GREAT THREAD

i will say im a little concerned that you put dow55 in the lube section. It will work but only if you know what your doing. I know if i gave some dow55 and a g3 to my buddy he would do it wrong and have stick like crazy.

also, i find that as long as the noid is clean and lubed with quality lube.. along with the bolt, you will get no stick.

I could shoot a g3 (no engine) at 10ms dwell with no ABS and it was fine.

just a lil bit of dow33 based lube on the bolt and noid will do wonders. I think people just put to much and it causes problems.

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Old 09-02-2010, 04:55 PM #5
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GREAT THREAD

i will say im a little concerned that you put dow55 in the lube section. It will work but only if you know what your doing. I know if i gave some dow55 and a g3 to my buddy he would do it wrong and have stick like crazy.

also, i find that as long as the noid is clean and lubed with quality lube.. along with the bolt, you will get no stick.

I could shoot a g3 (no engine) at 10ms dwell with no ABS and it was fine.

just a lil bit of dow33 based lube on the bolt and noid will do wonders. I think people just put to much and it causes problems.
Agreed!

A clean solenoid is a must. Many initially think after noticing the bolt won't cycle properly automatically jump to the conclusion that the problem is with their noid. DP's solenoids are tanks though, and having a maintained solenoid can eliminate it as being part of the problem.

I have used Dow 33 by mistake once and it worked fine. Dow 55 tends to swell the orings a little which can help seal the sail and internal orings. Not sure if this attribute of 55 is true, but I've been using it in hopes it would do this and have had "great success".

Thanks for your input too. You, marcus, disturbed, and rotten are pretty much the three people who cure 90% of all the DP problems.

Major thank you from me, and I'm sure everyone else agrees.
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Old 09-02-2010, 05:58 PM #6
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No problem man.

But you really use dow55 on a spoolie?? I would think it would be giving you issues. Unless the orings are really broken in.. i wouldnt recommend dow55 on fresh orings.
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Old 09-02-2010, 06:26 PM #7
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Old 09-02-2010, 10:33 PM #8
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Arsenal, did you know that putting dow55 on a spoolie is a Cardinal Sin?
Not only did you use dow55, but you also used oil. What's wrong with you?
I'll bet those markers are ruined now.. lol.
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Old 09-02-2010, 10:40 PM #9
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if he mixed the oil and 55 though he would be allright
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Old 09-03-2010, 12:29 AM #10
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Arsenal, did you know that putting dow55 on a spoolie is a Cardinal Sin?
Not only did you use dow55, but you also used oil. What's wrong with you?
I'll bet those markers are ruined now.. lol.
Nice Thread.
Hahaha, thanks dude.

I know, 55 isn't really what everyone tends to use but it's been doing me right so what can I say.

Like I said above, tried 33 on accident and it worked fine. That's what a lot of people tend to use on their spool markers, but recently been into Monkey Poo.... the lube that is.

Going to be sticking with that for a while.
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I always wondered who the guy was in the first Threshold vids shooting the marker and now I know. In any case awesome write up man. This will get added to the stickies!!!
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I have been using Slick Honey since the Rev-I came out and I haven't had any bolt stick issues as of yet. Has anyone else given it a try in their G3 or G4?
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slick honey works fine all all DP markers.

I think the issues were people didnt understand that you have to give the bolt a light amount of lube and do it more often than a normal marker.

We have not had many issues come on here pertaining to bolt stick lately.
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I think the issues were people didnt understand that you have to give the bolt a light amount of lube and do it more often than a normal marker.
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When you say give the bolt a light amount of lube. Are you refering to the body of the bolt itself or the o-rings?
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the head of the bolt that slides on the inner body o-rings, not the entire piece
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I always wondered who the guy was in the first Threshold vids shooting the marker and now I know. In any case awesome write up man. This will get added to the stickies!!!
Arsenal is not the guy in the pic. So the mystery stays for you....
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Nice write up!

I agree with using dow55 even though others may disagree with it.
I've found that the bolt can cycle even when the sail oring is swollen and producing much more pressure than needed to just seal.

I guess some of us will just have to agree to disagree of the lubes we use.
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HOLY **** IT's KIP!!!!!

I saw that you have a certain item f/s on EBAY there good sir
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Good to see you too!
Been watching and you're still as active as ever.

Holy ****! I just listed it a couple hours ago. You stalking me?? lol JK
Yah time to sell a few of my markers again. Gonna be listing a few older markers and 2 dp markers. 1 I've listed, the other will be later tonight.

I pop in every now and again.
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