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Old 08-18-2010, 09:51 PM #1
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Trilogy Autococker

I just made myself a trilogy pump gun but I want to upgrade this thing to the max. What should I put on it?
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Old 08-18-2010, 10:11 PM #2
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Old 08-18-2010, 10:27 PM #3
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To add to those excellent suggestions, if it is a Trilogy Sport, Palmers Pursuit Shop sells a nice replacement valve that will let you lower your operating pressure with the stock valve spring. You still may need a spring kit for the main spring. If you want to change the valve spring, there aren't any kits for that. The closest thing is a Spyder spring kit that is long enough but you may need cut it down to fit.
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Old 08-18-2010, 10:46 PM #4
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Or should I just restate and get a new frame completely? And all the upgrades together would cost about how much?
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Old 08-18-2010, 10:50 PM #5
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And also must i use a CCM pump kit? I'm rocking a trinity pump kit right now but it seems rather hard to pump it, wat can I do to help that?
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Old 08-18-2010, 11:59 PM #6
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Have you used it at the field yet? Pump stroke is a combination of the pump return spring and the main spring. In most cases, I would say it's the main spring. A lighter main spring would help (from spring kit), but then you may need to change the valve, operating pressure, valve spring, or hammer weight to get it up to velocity. There are many articles and posts written on this that you'll be able to find if you do a bit of searching.
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Old 08-19-2010, 12:00 AM #7
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Old 08-19-2010, 12:21 AM #8
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just tune it to perfection, i have a trilly pump and it stayed in the store i work at for monthes before i took it, because everyone tuned it so well over time it became the smoothest pump i have used, even coming close to ccm's

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Old 08-19-2010, 01:15 AM #9
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CCM SS25 valves fit inside nicely
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Old 08-19-2010, 01:40 AM #10
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Old 08-19-2010, 01:45 AM #11
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Old 08-19-2010, 08:25 AM #12
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I don't know about valve upgrades or anything, but a reg and barrel kit are probably the first things to get.

As far as pump stroke goes, you can make them pretty smooth. Mine wasn't smooth until I kept tweaking my pump arm to elminate binding/twisting. Now, it is extremely smooth, but that is probably helped by the half-block setup. (less friction.)

As mentioned, the lighter you can go on your hammer spring, the easier it's going to be to pump. I have a mediumish spring (can't remember where I got it), and my IVG is backed out most of the way, and it gets full velocity. I'm debating about whether to remove the spring from my pump handle; I don't ever take my hand off the pump anyway.

By the way, my Trilogy sport gets +/-2 fps over the chrono on average, using Hpa and an Evil Detonater. That's with stock internals, other than a softer mainspring.
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Old 08-19-2010, 10:51 AM #13
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LOL drg and pump!

Yeah, if you go MQ, you will have the lightest and smoothest pump stoke ever.

Although I shot a T2 once and I think they come pretty darn close.
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Old 08-19-2010, 11:08 AM #14
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Old 08-19-2010, 03:33 PM #15
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I think check it has one of the best valves out there, very little hit from the hammer will get you up to velocity.
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Old 08-19-2010, 04:25 PM #16
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To add to those excellent suggestions, if it is a Trilogy Sport, Palmers Pursuit Shop sells a nice replacement valve that will let you lower your operating pressure with the stock valve spring. You still may need a spring kit for the main spring. If you want to change the valve spring, there aren't any kits for that. The closest thing is a Spyder spring kit that is long enough but you may need cut it down to fit.
If you go to low it will cause bad farting and you will have to get a super light hammer spring, or a stiffer valve spring.

Just wanted to reiterate that.
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Old 08-19-2010, 06:23 PM #17
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Yeah, if you go MQ, you will have the lightest and smoothest pump stoke ever.
Although I shot a T2 once and I think they come pretty darn close.
they do huh!
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If you go to low it will cause bad farting and you will have to get a super light hammer spring, or a stiffer valve spring.

Just wanted to reiterate that.
or go lower than "to low" and use a super light valve spring and mainspring
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Old 08-19-2010, 06:55 PM #18
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they do huh!
or go lower than "to low" and use a super light valve spring and mainspring
Is there a complete Trilogy spring kit?

Or do you still have to use a Spyder kit and a Cocker kit.
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Old 08-19-2010, 06:57 PM #19
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i just take stock springs to the hardware store and find what fits and is lighter
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