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Old 08-17-2010, 04:26 AM #1
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My questions on supplements... MUSCLE/TRIMMING

so ive been going to the gym everyday for the past few months and i did loose wait and gain some muscle. im using some supplements but i have a few question.

im taking pills, CLA, which supposedly converts fat into energy and also blocks fat...? ( not sure but i know the conversion of fat is true)

i was wondering, should i take this before i eat or before i work out?

i also have a bottle of cartine i ingest before i work out. ( today was my first day of consumption) which gives me an energy and supposedly increases my metabolism which is slow.

do these products really work? i also drink whey after my workout.

i know the side effects and effects of these products and will like to know some feedback from some more knowledgeable people. thanks.

These are some before and after pictures...

Mind you i did loose weight and my arms did get a tad smaller.

Before - month after i joined the gym



After now-ish





Yes I am asian. But id say im pretty big for my size and age...

Im 16

Weight - 173
Height- 6 and 1/2 inch
Waist - 31
Shirt size - small - medium
Curl- 30 each arm
- With bar - 60 and 55
Bench - reps 135 - max 180
Abs - p90x every other day ONLY ab ripper
Tricep pulls - 110 - 120 - 130 for reps
Chest butterflies - 120 130 150 ( MACHINE )
Chest hammer machine - 45 plates on each side for reps.
Shoulder hammer machine - 45 plates each side with increase of weight of 10 pounds at times
Shoulder flies - 15 pounds for each arm.


Weigh in before - 200 - 206 pounds
Waist size 34- 36
Shirt size - Large



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within 4 1/2 months i have lost more than 20+ pounds....

Most importantly to end this thread. Should i be using these products to cut my weight? thanks for your inputs and comments.
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Old 08-17-2010, 05:39 AM #2
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An Asian with muscle... Does not compute

Anyway, looks to be working for you. Can't help you with the supps.
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Old 08-17-2010, 06:49 AM #3
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haha thanks.

np thanks any ways.
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Old 08-17-2010, 09:47 AM #4
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you're not fat stop taking those bull **** sups.
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Old 08-17-2010, 10:25 AM #5
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Don't take fat burners. They are such bull**** and a lot of them are absolutely terrible for you. Stick to working hard and eating correctly. Stick with the whey too.
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Old 08-17-2010, 12:15 PM #6
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CLA works over an extended period of time.

http://www.webmd.com/diet/news/20050...at-loss?page=2

But it's not better than eating right and working out.
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Old 08-17-2010, 12:43 PM #7
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thanks fr your comments. I would like to drop 10 pounds, I've been dieting for a while and it's just getting harder. just a ball park but how long will I see effects?
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Old 08-17-2010, 12:46 PM #8
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OP your stats intrigue me. You have posts up all these girly machine stats, but I am interested to know how much do you squat an dead? If you don't know either then you have field miserably.

Also, I understand you are only 16 but come on wait=/=weight. Don't dishona framree.

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An Asian with muscle... Does not compute

Anyway, looks to be working for you. Can't help you with the supps.
I have a friend who is going to play corner back at UTSA who weighs 175 (he is around 5'7" really lean) who just maxed his bench at 315. He is viet.
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Old 08-17-2010, 12:53 PM #9
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OP your stats intrigue me. You have posts up all these girly machine stats, but I am interested to know how much do you squat an dead? If you don't know either then you have field miserably.

Also, I understand you are only 16 but come on wait=/=weight. Don't dishona framree.



I have a friend who is going to play corner back at UTSA who weighs 175 (he is around 5'7" really lean) who just maxed his bench at 315. He is viet.

i dont squat and dead lift because im still growing. theres surely no reason to bash me when im not even legal yet. i just started to work out, cut me some slack. im pretty sure im doing fine. thanks any ways.
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Old 08-17-2010, 01:08 PM #12
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you actually have a lot of testerone in your legs which means itll help you build muscle to actually do those thngs
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Old 08-17-2010, 01:13 PM #13
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you actually have a lot of testerone in your legs which means itll help you build muscle to actually do those thngs
thanks for putting it that way. will look into it
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Don't look into it. Squat now. Immediately.
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Learn how to squat correctly. Don't need anymore pussies who think Squatting is bad because it can hurt your knees.
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Yeah, I have avoided those things thus far because I don't want to **** up my back/knees... I would like to see some peer reviewed literature on the effects of heavy lifting and long term health.
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Any lift and any supplement could **** you up if you don't do it correctly. All the hate is just broscience.
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Yeah, I have avoided those things thus far because I don't want to **** up my back/knees... I would like to see some peer reviewed literature on the effects of heavy lifting and long term health.
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Old 08-17-2010, 04:25 PM #19
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Yeah, I have avoided those things thus far because I don't want to **** up my back/knees... I would like to see some peer reviewed literature on the effects of heavy lifting and long term health.
I would doubt that there is much question that a huge amount of muscle growth (or growth of the body in general, be it fat/muscle/whatever) increases the chance of development of cancerous growths.

I know that's not what you meant probably, but it seems more growth would mean more chance for things to grow incorrectly.

These are obviously my thoughts and totally hypothetical (so don't take it as science or fact) and I wouldn't doubt that the difference is negligible if you eat a healthy diet (though what many people on this forum consider healthy is definitely not).
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I would doubt that there is much question that a huge amount of muscle growth (or growth of the body in general, be it fat/muscle/whatever) increases the chance of development of cancerous growths.

I know that's not what you meant probably, but it seems more growth would mean more chance for things to grow incorrectly.

These are obviously my thoughts and totally hypothetical (so don't take it as science or fact) and I wouldn't doubt that the difference is negligible if you eat a healthy diet (though what many people on this forum consider healthy is definitely not).
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