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Old 06-29-2010, 05:52 PM #1
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Chris Henry Had CTE Before Death

Chronic Traumatic Encephalopathy*

Generally, there are three assumptions about CTE:

- it is usually the result of multiple concussions
- it happens to people who work long, contact-filled careers
- it usually occurs later on in life

The shocking thing with Henry, however, is that his case met none of the three assumptions. He had never suffered a concussion as far as his college and professional playing days, his career was relatively short, and he died at the young age of twenty-six.

Here's a picture of a side by side comparison of Henry's brain and a normal one:



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"It didn't look like the brain of a 26-year-old," said Dr. Omalu
2009 was the Year of the Concussion, with concussions becoming particularly prominent in that calendar year, and many sports-related programs were devoted towards exploring causes and long-term effects of concussions. Armed with results from studies of Chris Henry's brain, we can expect to see more pressure on the game of football to adapt to these findings and attempt to reduce the large number of concussions in the sport. Make no mistake, you'll hear more and more on this subject as a result of further brain scans of retired players so this issue won't go away anytime soon. Furthermore, new extensive medical studies have shown that the life expectancy for the average NFL retiree is 53-59 - varying on position - compared to the average lifespan of an American male: 75.

How do you guys think the NFL should respond to pressure to adapt the game to reduce serious concussions?
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Old 06-29-2010, 06:02 PM #2
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yeah this is huge

i've said before that people have been underestimating just how damaging this game is on your brain
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What’s interesting, Bailes said, is that Henry was only 26, and neither NFL nor WVU records show he was diagnosed with a concussion during his playing career.But it doesn’t take a collision with another player for brain trauma to occur.

“The brain floats freely in your skull,” Omalu said. “If you’re moving very quickly and suddenly stop, the brain bounces.”And over time, with repetition, that causes big problems.

CTE carries specific neurobehavioral symptoms, Bailes said—typically, failure at personal and business relationships, use of drugs and alcohol, depression and suicide.“

Chris Henry did not have that entire spectrum and we don’t know if there’s a cause and effect here,” Bailes said. “It certainly raises the question and raises our curiosity. We’re just here to report our findings. That may be for others to decipher.”
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Old 06-29-2010, 06:28 PM #4
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You guys are right. Lets just stop playing football. Lets make it so you cant come off the ground when you tackle and bubble wrap the players up. These players made a choice a long time ago to play the game. No one is making them. People die when serving in the military. Its a occupational hazard.
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Its a good thing to protect the players as much as possible, but at the same time its the nature of the game. Everyone who straps up knows the possibility of severe or fatal injury is there, and we all accept that.
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You guys are right. Lets just stop playing football. Lets make it so you cant come off the ground when you tackle and bubble wrap the players up. These players made a choice a long time ago to play the game. No one is making them. People die when serving in the military. Its a occupational hazard.


nobodies arguing that
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Old 06-29-2010, 08:26 PM #7
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People are wanting to dramatically change the game. Im opposed to that.
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Agreed. We all take the risk every time we step on the field. Not much can be done about it, obviously the technology in pads and helmets has come along way, but you'll never remove the pure violence that is football. What happens on a football field is considered assault on many levels, and we breed these machines to destroy other human beings for the sake of a game. Good thing no one forces us to play, and we sure as hell dont play because we want to be healthy.
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This is part of the reason Football players make more money than 90+% of the population...
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That too...although in the grand scheme of pro sports they are grotesquely under paid. Sorry, but no grass fairy, ice fairy, basketball, or baseball player puts their body on the line 60+ times a game like football players do.
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That too...although in the grand scheme of pro sports they are grotesquely under paid. Sorry, but no grass fairy, ice fairy, basketball, or baseball player puts their body on the line 60+ times a game like football players do.
yeah thats not how economics works
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What I dont understand is that the NFL made 8 billion in profit last year.....why are guys still not getting guaranteed money...?
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I definitely agree that players are underpaid and that unfortunately they're going to get screwed by the new CBA

however in relation to other sports putting your body on the line doesn't automatically earn you higher wages
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Oh I'm aware, but in football putting your body on the line is a commodity, its a necessity.


And I think the new CBA will continue to screw the players, but sooner or later somethings gotta give. I think right now guaranteed money is out of the question, however benefits for retired or ex players will increase, which to me is a substantial step in the right direction.
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People are wanting to dramatically change the game. Im opposed to that.
who in this thread suggested any changes in the game that would have any significant impact on the dynamics of the game?

an answer to this could simply be changing the design of the helmet and pads to better absorb the damage of hits.
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And how exactly would you propose that gets done? You can only change a helmet and pad it so much. Its not going to protect you from much more then it already does.
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Nobody did, but it's true. There are people in the NFL (read: Roger Goodell) that are serious advocates for major rules in the NFL to be changed so that the players are safer. While the idea of making the players safer, especially from concussions and other brain injuries, some of the things are just ridiculous. Does anybody remember the whole "banning of 3 point stance" a while back?

I'm more interested in the plans for helping out retired NFL players then any changes in the game itself. Older players have serious health problems and as said before, usually die way earlier than most people. Also, the changes to the pension plan and health care will probably be a huge part of the CBA.
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i'd be more motivated to answer that question if roger and the NFL were paying me to, but since they aren't i'm not going to bother investing any energy into that little dilemma.

and goodell doesn't really know what he wants. he's also recently suggested adding 2 games to the schedule which is obviously a step in the wrong direction towards lessening the damage done to a player's body.
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Once again, the whole 18 game season thing is all about the money. Also, with that 18 game regular season, there would be a reduction in preseason games. While it certainly won't completely stymie the increase of injuries that would come with those extra regular season games, there would still only be 20 total games.
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Good news folks, there will be no major rule changes, there will be 18 games eventually, and we'll all love it at the expense of the players who chose to play this sport.


I mean think about it, if someone told you "hey, heres the deal. You're going to play football in the NFL, your kids, your grandkids, and their kids will be set for life. However, the catch is you may lose 10-20 years off the end of your life."


Would you do it?
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Good news folks, there will be no major rule changes, there will be 18 games eventually, and we'll all love it at the expense of the players who chose to play this sport.


I mean think about it, if someone told you "hey, heres the deal. You're going to play football in the NFL, your kids, your grandkids, and their kids will be set for life. However, the catch is you may lose 10-20 years off the end of your life."


Would you do it?

In a second.
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