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Old 05-31-2010, 01:57 PM #1
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Mini/Axe Eigenbolt from Lurker

So I PM'd Lurker about a week or so ago asking about the status of the Mini Eigenbolt.
He replied that they were in route and should be here any day.

Now I have money saved up for the bolt, but it's still not here!

Does anyone know what's happening?
Perhaps he ordered from a land far, far away?




I guess what I'm really trying to say is that I'm just super excited to order more stuff from Lurker, and really can't wait to get my hands on an Eigenbolt to test and review
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Old 05-31-2010, 02:19 PM #2
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He's had to wait for the proper bolt o-rings to come in.
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Old 05-31-2010, 02:19 PM #3
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I'm sure it will be there soon. I know TNT did alot of testing for them when they were in the pre-production stage.
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Old 05-31-2010, 02:22 PM #4
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I see...

I'm so stoked for the bolt release that it's actually a little pathetic
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Old 05-31-2010, 02:24 PM #5
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It shouldn't be too much longer now.
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Old 06-01-2010, 12:32 PM #6
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They're done, I'll update my website tonight.

pballin16, yours is in the mail.
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Old 06-01-2010, 12:50 PM #7
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I've never heard of this bolt. Is it new? How is it to the stock bolt? Does it have the same problems as the other aftermarket mini bolts?
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Old 06-01-2010, 01:21 PM #8
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We'll have to see about whether it matches all bolt guides equally well. With any luck, it will work out just fine. I know TNTtactical really enjoyed his once we got the right bolt dimensions in terms of diameter. Certainly we'll work with whoever gets one to ensure satisfaction.

Compared to the stock bolt, there are quite a few sneaky optimizations in addition to being the lightest bolt available for the mini, and the anti-chop operation:

1. Airflow improved - the stock bolt just has a 90º shelf the air runs into, this has a smooth taper.

2. Improved soft face - we left an air gap for the stock soft face to flex back into. The stock bolt is rather like getting punched by a dude with a thin glove - there isn't really anything for the rubber to do but try to dissipate the force laterally, and it isn't great at it. The air gap lets the ball compress the rubber more like a foamie tip would.


So, overall, we were after kick reduction, efficiency, and ease on paint. Based on TNT's review, I think we succeeded pretty well in all 3 areas in making a nice balanced aftermarket bolt for the mini.
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Old 06-01-2010, 02:09 PM #9
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pballin16, yours is in the mail.
Awesome, thanks.

Cant wait to try these out, they sound great.
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Old 06-01-2010, 06:14 PM #10
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I dont think the mini is really that hard on paint. My mini is all stock and I've used Evil, Ultra Evil, Draxus Gold, Ultra Marbs with out any problems.
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Old 06-01-2010, 06:17 PM #11
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Thanks for the info! Where can I find TNT's review?
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Old 06-01-2010, 07:57 PM #12
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Sweet
I'll be buying one tonight
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Old 06-02-2010, 05:37 AM #13
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Does this work with the stock spring or will we need a kit?
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It is designed to work with the stock spring - I don't really recommend anything else. You can tune the mini to be quite efficient with the stock spring, and reliable. Since during the beginning of the stroke, the force is greatly reduced. And for the return, it acts as a kind of "air bumper". This is different from 2 o-ring bolts, which halve the flow through the noid as the bolt returns or extends. I prefer the method I've employed, obviously.


I don't think all minis are murderously harsh on paint or anything, but I think it is an area where there is room for improvement compared to the high-end markers of the world. It seemed to be a problem locally in cold weather, which is how this project started. We've had to endure a few rounds of paper-thin-shelled practice paint here, though.

Basically, I'm talkin' shootin' chilled hellfire off the break. Since you'll win the majority of tournament games that you're up bodies off the break, this has been a point of emphasis in my mind pretty much since I heard of joy division doing it. Obviously the other factors one could optimize in a bolt I have gone after as well in terms of friction, weight, and flow.
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Old 06-02-2010, 10:00 AM #15
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im excited... can i get one for a review and i'll write a in detail review on it compared to the other bolts i've had in the past, and i've owned and used just about all of them out there NDZ truflo, tech t delrins and mrt gold bolts, shocktechs, and stock. let me know i won't be biased just an honest comparison
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Just buy one and then review it. The bolt is only $32.

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im excited... can i get one for a review and i'll write a in detail review on it compared to the other bolts i've had in the past, and i've owned and used just about all of them out there NDZ truflo, tech t delrins and mrt gold bolts, shocktechs, and stock. let me know i won't be biased just an honest comparison
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Old 06-02-2010, 08:44 PM #18
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I ordered one today, doubt it will get here before I play on Saturday but I'll let you know the results. Probably better that it doesnt as I just bought a Ninja 68/4500 so I'll be able to tell you the difference between stock and eigen using the same hardware and paint. I'll bring the temp gun with me.
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Old 06-02-2010, 10:02 PM #19
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How did you order one?
When I go to the website, the Mini Eigenbolt page doesn't have a buy button

Even if it works well with the stock spring, I have a feeling that it'll work just fine with spring kits as well

I'll test the bolt with the lightest spring and post up results
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Old 06-02-2010, 10:10 PM #20
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It's the button that says "PAYPAL add to cart."
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Old 06-02-2010, 10:13 PM #21
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Bah!
Google Chrome didn't show it!

Got on Firefox and have now ordered
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