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Old 04-26-2010, 02:48 PM #1
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Creed Efficiency

This weekend four of our teams participated in the NEXL and NEPL event in Maynard, Mass. 36 players with 20 using Creeds. These markers, with our back players in both formats averaged 10/13 (1500/1800 shots on a 4300 cool fill) pods of paint per match. With the air efficiency our Creeds maintained and gave the ability of our players to shoot 3/4 pods extra per match, we were able to place two of the four teams in fourth place Division 2 Open Class podium spots.

Now I've used and teched all high end markers and played in multiple style formats. Under the extreme conditions of X-Ball I have never seen a marker capable of achieving efficiency as the Creeds have.

Awesome job Vanguard. We are definitely impressed.

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Old 04-26-2010, 03:02 PM #2
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Old 04-26-2010, 04:22 PM #3
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Nice! Congrats on the placing and great write up.

By the way, in the NE Hurricanes latest documentary vid (episode 2), they scrim against a team called Identity, was this you guys?
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Nice! Congrats on the placing and great write up.

By the way, in the NE Hurricanes latest documentary vid (episode 2), they scrim against a team called Identity, was this you guys?
Yup, that's us. Here's a few pics of NEPL, the NEXL pics will be up once the photog's computer gets fixed.







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Ouch!
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Ouch!
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It was pretty much simultaneous. My gun was up as he came over, so we just blasted each other. The refs called it a trade out as well.
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Awesome photo. Could have been pretty nasty for the guy coming over the top haha.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch_private...Ox2j5Szr81ydcQ

The photo above is the Identity Creed vs Hurricane play off match.

This would be that documentary. In the playoffs we lost all three matches to the Hurricanes but each match was a nail biter. Identity Creed, although fairly a new team is growing and developing quite quickly. I have high expectations for this team by years end.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch_private...Ox2j5Szr81ydcQ

The photo above is the Identity Creed vs Hurricane play off match.

This would be that documentary. In the playoffs we lost all three matches to the Hurricanes but each match was a nail biter. Identity Creed, although fairly a new team is growing and developing quite quickly. I have high expectations for this team by years end.
=whisper= pss, it's a private video..
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It should have been released to the public yesterday! I PM'ed Jeff Stein to find out what the hold up is. As soon as I hear I'll post it. It has some really good Identity footage in it with the Creeds.

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Birth of a Storm v2 here http://www.propaintball.com/2010/04/...irst-practice/
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Great to hear Carl. I'm glad all worked out for you guys congrats.

See if things are tuned correctly everything works out perfectly!!!

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Greatly appreciate all your help! It was a great feeling to pull those markers outa the box and have every one work perfectly set to the proper fps and shoot great all day!

With that we owe you!

Thanks buddy!

PS! That anno job was awesome and a great draw to our vendor booth!
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Yes I did! That was fast!

Thanks

The customer was "Extremely Happy."
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He Eric! I have not had to make one adjustment to the Green/Silver Creeds since receiving them. That included one X-Ball and one 7 Man NPPL Tournament. One X-ball practice in monsoon weather and in 7 Man NPPL Style practice today!

Our back player, starting with 4500psi cool fill hit 9 pods in one match. 1350 shots! A opponent commented that the efficiency was no different than his high end poppet marker. With out filling the tank we re-podded him for match two. He achieved another five pods before being shot out.

With just about 100/200 psi left after walking off the field he actually achieved a 2050 shot average off a full tank. He stated that the last two pods, the shots were kinda funny but managed to make it arching the shots cross field.

All I can say is awesome tuning on those markers!
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Jase, and me have been working on the creed to make it better and better and the results of our efforts are just amazing, I took 2 markers to an event this weekend and I just could not believe how the creed shot over the crono 280 281 280 both markers were shooting +/- 1 on average.
The players who used them could not believe how soft and gentle they are, they sound different I was being told and one lady had to think if she was firing at all.
We have engineered the creed to be 100% leak free to give best efficiency possible so please make sure you degas the marker when you take the bottle off, we are getting reports of them still being gassed up after 2 weeks after removing the bottle, and this should be done with all markers.

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I'm can definitely verify the marker remaining gassed up after two weeks! Thats incredible.
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We have engineered the creed to be 100% leak free to give best efficiency possible so please make sure you degas the marker when you take the bottle off, we are getting reports of them still being gassed up after 2 weeks after removing the bottle, and this should be done with all markers.
I've always thought that de-gassing the marker was best .. Your saying its better to keep air in them ? thanks mike
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Jase, and me have been working on the creed to make it better and better and the results of our efforts are just amazing, I took 2 markers to an event this weekend and I just could not believe how the creed shot over the crono 280 281 280 both markers were shooting +/- 1 on average.
The players who used them could not believe how soft and gentle they are, they sound different I was being told and one lady had to think if she was firing at all.
We have engineered the creed to be 100% leak free to give best efficiency possible so please make sure you degas the marker when you take the bottle off, we are getting reports of them still being gassed up after 2 weeks after removing the bottle, and this should be done with all markers.
he says to degas it
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Degassing the marker is always the safest bet! I think what Martin is saying that with new engineering designs in the Creed the markers are holding air in the bolt with out leaking. Thus during the firing cycle air is sealed more efficiently raising the shot counts well above the standard high end marker.

I personally let my Creed sit for two weeks with out touching it recently. I turned it on to set it up for a Semi Only Practice, inadvertently held the trigger and the clearing shot fired and was able to fire a second after that! Wit out a tank attached.

Now I dry fire the marker at the end of every practice to ensure all air has been dispersed.
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