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Old 04-26-2010, 03:16 PM #64
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well you have to think it paintball, and most players do smoke but i dont think that most of them will stop any time soon. If you have such a problem with it as many people have said walk away from it.I also dont aprove of it but i dont make a huge deal of it
I was staged next to the women and her sons and the rest of their team. I saw one gentleman from a team next to both of us smoking and the women politly asked him if he could smoke that somewhere else and she explained to him that her and her two sons both had asthma. Why should she and her two sons have to stop what they were doing and walk away when that one person out of 20 people in the area could walk away and smoke somewhere else.

Im just saying places like ballparks, football fields, hospitals and some buildings have designated smoking areas for a reason.
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Old 04-26-2010, 03:19 PM #65
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I did bring it to Lori's attention, starting first thing in the morning. They did announce it.

As to D.O.T., since the majority of responses were the usual 'I can smoke if I want to just walk away' with total disregard for ANYONE else, I thought I would bring up the other quite obvious form of dealing with it.
nice to know that double standards still exist.
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nice to know that double standards still exist.
it is not a double standard. You are (as are the other smokers) asserting that your right to smoke is more important than anyone's health.


The DSM has a name for that.
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I did bring it to Lori's attention, starting first thing in the morning. They did announce it.
I heard It, it was right before the 5 man captains meeting
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I did bring it to Lori's attention, starting first thing in the morning. They did announce it.

As to D.O.T., since the majority of responses were the usual 'I can smoke if I want to just walk away' with total disregard for ANYONE else, I thought I would bring up the other quite obvious form of dealing with it.
I believe your mixing up compressed air with compressed oxygen. The air in our tanks is non flammable, while oxygen is obviously highly flammable. Tanks only become bombs if a flammable substance is introduced, such as oil. The compression exacerbates the explosion, however it is not the cause of it.

I am with you on the smoking though. It's a rule, and must be followed.
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The only reason people didn't stop smokeing was because they didn't know. I didn't know you couldn't until this thread. I think we needs announcements then if it offends this many people. Not many people check there emails often
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I believe your mixing up compressed air with compressed oxygen. The air in our tanks is non flammable, while oxygen is obviously highly flammable. Tanks only become bombs if a flammable substance is introduced, such as oil. The compression exacerbates the explosion, however it is not the cause of it.

I am with you on the smoking though. It's a rule, and must be followed.
The D.O.T. website is a bit confusing, but it does seem to suggest that ANY filling is an issue, not just flammable gas (of which oxygen is just one of many). I don't imagine it is a great idea to be smoking around tanks in general but do not know the law.

This was just my first encounter in YEARS with that much smoke around me since laws around the WORLD have changed due to knowing the health hazards.

A rule exists, and it would be nice if it was followed without all the name calling, and devolution.
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it is not a double standard. You are (as are the other smokers) asserting that your right to smoke is more important than anyone's health.


The DSM has a name for that.
im just asserting i have a right to smoke and a right to express it just like you have a right to express that u dont want it around your children.
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I am with you on the smoking though. It's a rule, and must be followed.
I am not sure why people are getting so worked up. To my fellow smokers, lets just treat the field like we do everywhere else we go and step away from the general public. If we dont mind doing it at work, at school, at resturaunts, bars, parks, stadiums, etc etc why are we *****ing about it here.

Gillette stadium and fenway park are considered "Outdoors" but if you get caught smoking in your seat you get kicked out.

Lori wrote it in the email so thus said it is a rule, and will mostlikely be a rule for upcoming events as it has been for past events. Howabout we just FOLLOW the rule.

Just because you dont get caught speeding, its still illegal!
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im just asserting i have a right to smoke and a right to express it just like you have a right to express that u dont want it around your children.
I just have to quote that. right there. says it all.
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"we kindly ask that if you need to smoke - you do so in the parking lot as these are close quarters."

See the above from the original email. If we are splitting hairs, there is nothing above that indicates a rule. It is a request. However, I as well as others will comply with it at the next event.
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I believe your mixing up compressed air with compressed oxygen. The air in our tanks is non flammable, while oxygen is obviously highly flammable. Tanks only become bombs if a flammable substance is introduced, such as oil. The compression exacerbates the explosion, however it is not the cause of it.

I am with you on the smoking though. It's a rule, and must be followed.
Oxygen also not flammable....however having high amounts of Oxygen creates a a particularly dangerous environment. One that is a real fire hazard. Youtube it youíll see what Iím talking about. You canít burn Oxygen....but without it you cannot have combustion. Oil spontaneously combusts at a certain pressure (example diesel engines)
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Oxygen also not flammable
Umm, oxygen is what fire is primarily fueled by. Without oxygen you cant have fire! cant believe everything on youtube man. High School Chemistry 101
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Interesting thread.

I wonder what a shrink would say after reading this. If anyone knows one, please forward to him/her. I'll bet we could get some 'scripts written from this.

For the record, Lori (yeah, you're reading this...), I didn't smoke at the field at all.
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Umm, oxygen is what fire is primarily fueled by. Without oxygen you cant have fire! cant believe everything on youtube man. High School Chemistry 101
Actually he is right, Oxygen is an oxidizer:

Compressed gases can be classified as

* oxidizers
* inert gases
* flammable gases

Oxidizers

Oxidizers are not flammable by them self, but will contribute to combustion as an oxidant. Fat or oil is not acceptable in combination with oxidizers.

Some common oxidizers:

* Air
* Chlorine
* Fluorine
* Nitric Oxide
* Nitrogen Dioxide
* Oxygen

Inert gases

Inert gases do not take part in combustion processes and they do not react with other materials. An inert gas supplied to a room or limited space will reduce the amount of oxygen and limit a combustion process of a fire. Inert gases are used in extinguishing systems where it is important to avoid water damage - rooms with electronic devices etc.

Some inert gases:

* Argon
* Carbon Dioxide
* Helium
* Neon
* Nitrogen
* Xenon

Flammable gases

Flammable gases together with air or oxygen in the right concentration burns or explodes if ignited.

If the mixture is to lean or to rich the mixture will not ignite.

Some flammable gases:

* Acetylene
* Ammonia
* Arsine
* Butane
* Carbon Monoxide
* Cyclopropane
* Ethane
* Ethylene
* Ethyl Chloride
* Hydrogen
* Isobutan
* Methane
* Methyl Chloride
* Propane
* Propylene
* Silane
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Umm, oxygen is what fire is primarily fueled by. Without oxygen you cant have fire! cant believe everything on youtube man. High School Chemistry 101
Oxygen is needed for fire...but it not what combusts. Its probably splitting hairs but its really isnt flammable. An Oxyacetylene torch is a perfect example. You have 2 tanks Oxygen and Acetylene. Get the thing started and turn off the acetylene....your fire goes out, even with a constant supply of oxygen.

I suggest you look up what Im talking about.

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Ill vouch for em. Didnt see him with a Cigar at all Saturday...it was kinda weird.
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Man, those cigarettes must have been laced with like LSD or something.

Because apparently breathing it in second hand causes you to lose.
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Can we stop the complaining now and wait to see what lori and NEPL says? Its not getting us anywhere without them in on the conversation.
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Man, those cigarettes must have been laced with like LSD or something.

Because apparently breathing it in second hand causes you to lose.
Really, Must you be a dickhead?

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Can we stop the complaining now and wait to see what lori and NEPL says? Its not getting us anywhere without them in on the conversation.
Agreed
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Ill vouch for em. Didnt see him with a Cigar at all Saturday...it was kinda weird.
Agreed.
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