[PWSSH IM AGG]

is their any way nepl can change the rules to the gun being on psp

[Seekey]

y not play in the NEXL?

[PE Immortal]

dumbest question ive ever read...

[FencerSMS]

i bet hes referring to the 5man division - which is ACTUALLY a very intelligent request [although his wording suffers].

[jmac3]

Originally Posted by FencerSMS

i bet hes referring to the 5man division - which is ACTUALLY a very intelligent request [although his wording suffers].

True.

A pretty legitimate request/question I am amazed.

[495demonic]

they'll get right on that for ya..........

[FU2N]

Originally Posted by 495demonic

they'll get right on that for ya..........

your post was almost as useful as having aids.

[patenaude37]

Originally Posted by PE Immortal

dumbest question ive ever read...

hahaha QFT

[FencerSMS]

Originally Posted by patenaude37

hahaha QFT

Zachary, this is why we don't let you do the talking for us.
~scholten

[Crunk Twisted]

id actually like to see nepl go to psp for 5 man myself.I mean its held on an xball field why not play in psp right?gpl and ccpl allow it.

[Obey-193]

Originally Posted by Crunk Twisted

id actually like to see nepl go to psp for 5 man myself.I mean its held on an xball field why not play in psp right?gpl and ccpl allow it.

becuase the nepl has nexl which is psp format ,5man is for the players that want the 7 man feel just with less people and smaller fields not everyone that plays 5 man wants ramping and if they do they will play nexl

[FencerSMS]

Originally Posted by Obey-193

becuase the nepl has nexl which is psp format ,5man is for the players that want the 7 man feel just with less people and smaller fields not everyone that plays 5 man wants ramping and if they do they will play nexl

perhaps, but clearly their is a divide between what players want. some 5man players want a 5man PSP, and others may want a 5man division as a step-up to 7man.
to say that any xball player will just play NEXL is simply false, its the same to say any player who wishes to play 7man will play MLP.
some people arent members of teams who want to make season commitments or have the upfront money.

[495demonic]

ramping is a whole new game. we play nepl for a reason.. we dont want to play xball or psp which is essentially what that would be. nepl games dont go too long and their not too short and semi adds challenges. if we turned on ramping lets see..5 man. ramping. sound familiar. so it would just be taking away from playing semi. thats why theres nexl. plenty of other xball leagues out there.

[FullMetalJester]

It is a very valid point however, if they use PSP layouts for the 5man. Reason being, those layouts are designed for 12.5 bps.

We noticed this last season in the NCPA, before the league moved to PSP ramp. Playing on the PSP layouts designed for 10.5 in semi mode was ridiculous. It changed the way the whole layout was played and really made some of the lanes extremely hard to get through (which was not the case in PSP mode). A lot of games went to stalemate/time because you could not move up the field with the crazy amount of paint.

just something to think about.

[FencerSMS]

Originally Posted by 495demonic

ramping is a whole new game. we play nepl for a reason.. we dont want to play xball or psp which is essentially what that would be. nepl games dont go too long and their not too short and semi adds challenges. if we turned on ramping lets see..5 man. ramping. sound familiar. so it would just be taking away from playing semi. thats why theres nexl. plenty of other xball leagues out there.

People play the NEPL because they feel its the best game in town; people take into account the FORMAT [xball/race-to, 5man/7man, ramping/semi]. but they also take into account many other things; cost, commitment level [per-event, season-long], competing leagues [foxball], etc.

You look at the 5man division like a fabled blondie picking porridge; "not too hot, not too cold, its just right". Wrong - maybe to you it is, but clearly there are other people that have different preferences for you.

Our team is playing the MLP because it was what the majority of the team felt was the best available option, all things considered - ramping was not a factor, period.

[VSOwnage]

Originally Posted by FullMetalJester

It is a very valid point however, if they use PSP layouts for the 5man. Reason being, those layouts are designed for 12.5 bps.

We noticed this last season in the NCPA, before the league moved to PSP ramp. Playing on the PSP layouts designed for 10.5 in semi mode was ridiculous. It changed the way the whole layout was played and really made some of the lanes extremely hard to get through (which was not the case in PSP mode). A lot of games went to stalemate/time because you could not move up the field with the crazy amount of paint.

just something to think about.

I can attest to that.

[495demonic]

Originally Posted by FencerSMS

People play the NEPL because they feel its the best game in town; people take into account the FORMAT [xball/race-to, 5man/7man, ramping/semi]. but they also take into account many other things; cost, commitment level [per-event, season-long], competing leagues [foxball], etc.

You look at the 5man division like a fabled blondie picking porridge; "not too hot, not too cold, its just right". Wrong - maybe to you it is, but clearly there are other people that have different preferences for you.

Our team is playing the MLP because it was what the majority of the team felt was the best available option, all things considered - ramping was not a factor, period.

calm down bud everyones got their own opinion. jesus christ . i explained how i felt. you dont have to be offended cuz someone doesn't feel the same way as you.

[NTran]

Originally Posted by FullMetalJester

It is a very valid point however, if they use PSP layouts for the 5man. Reason being, those layouts are designed for 12.5 bps.

We noticed this last season in the NCPA, before the league moved to PSP ramp. Playing on the PSP layouts designed for 10.5 in semi mode was ridiculous. It changed the way the whole layout was played and really made some of the lanes extremely hard to get through (which was not the case in PSP mode). A lot of games went to stalemate/time because you could not move up the field with the crazy amount of paint.

just something to think about.

I don't think that field layouts are necessarily designed for a specific gun speed. I will agree that gun speed can affect the way a game is played though. I think that affects the game play much more than the layout.

Sometimes fields are just designed and they end up playing a certain way.
I remember practicing last year against the canes on PSP at 10.5 and the field layout just played slow.

Originally Posted by 495demonic

calm down bud everyones got their own opinion. jesus christ . i explained how i felt. you dont have to be offended cuz someone doesn't feel the same way as you.

It doesn't sound to me that he is offended. He's explaining another point also.

[495demonic]

seems pretty hostile if you ask me but w.e this thread is stupid lol

[FencerSMS]

Thank you Noel.

[KBrady[UMASS]]

Originally Posted by 495demonic

calm down bud everyones got their own opinion. jesus christ . i explained how i felt. you dont have to be offended cuz someone doesn't feel the same way as you.

Originally Posted by 495demonic

ramping is a whole new game. we play nepl for a reason.. we dont want to play xball or psp which is essentially what that would be. nepl games dont go too long and their not too short and semi adds challenges. if we turned on ramping lets see..5 man. ramping. sound familiar. so it would just be taking away from playing semi. thats why theres nexl. plenty of other xball leagues out there.

He was simply explaining what HIS TEAM wanted. Not to start an argument, but you are effectively claiming to speak for the entire 5man division without considering there may be other thoughts on it... exactly what you are criticizing someone else for doing. I'm not advocating going one way or the other as that is no longer my division, you should do as the majority wishes, but I'm certain there are players beyond yourself and original poster on both sides of the issue.

Sure, you can utilize ramp to make it "XBall", but the essence of XBall is that it's a series of games to determine a winner. People can bicker about ramp, bps, and coaching, but with or without, if it's still an extended series of points to name a winner, it's "XBall".

There are other purposes for ramp too. In many cases (NCPA to name one), ramp was adopted to make regulating guns at least acheivable. Sure, it's just a simple computer so people can go out of there way to create a mode that will do this that and the other to get around it, but in "semi" (and yes, it does deserve quotations), you can alter a gun myriad ways to gain some form of a competitive advantage through bounce, use of "cheater modes", etc etc. Sometimes these things can be unintentional; I have never once TRIED to use a bouncing gun, but I know I have. Ramp in and of itself does not create XBall and it is a useful tool to limit some rule violations.