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Old 06-15-2012, 03:44 PM #1555
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Hey guys need a little help here if possible itīs driving me nuts ... I have a Shocker SFT that is leaking through the solenoid and the manifold and have no idea what it is ... have done maintenance ond the noid and have relubed the whole marker as guides say so ... honestly have no idea what it can be please assist ... the leak is in that gap right at the end of the manifold.

Before hand thank you very much
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Old 06-15-2012, 05:42 PM #1556
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http://www.zdspb.com/tech/mguide/sho...ifoldleak.html

If the solenoid inserts have been adjusted recently, check those. Otherwise as long as your solenoid is still healthy it's most likely an oring listed in the link above.
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Old 06-15-2012, 06:14 PM #1557
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Does the hybrix bolt guide need to be thinned for a sprung bolt?
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Old 06-15-2012, 07:48 PM #1558
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Some may need to be. It all depends on the spring guide combo.
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Old 06-16-2012, 03:06 AM #1559
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My hybrid bolt guide works great with a Rhino, it just dropped right in.
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Old 06-16-2012, 07:26 PM #1560
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well i have a problem that stumps me i have a techt sprung bolt with he can, and bloodline backcap, no leaks nothing with dwell at 25 (seems way to high) i can single shoot when i set the dwell at 13 like it should be i can't single shoot i have to shoot a string of paint or i get FSDO like no other, i have changed the battery its brand new, serviced the entire gun but to no avail, am i missing something?

i did build this gun from the ground up and maybe the solenoid inserts are the problem is there a specific way for things? thanks in advance

o also tried a stock bolt same problem and i've now wiped all the lube off and i was using a good amount of dow33 but now its mostly all wiped off
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Old 06-16-2012, 08:01 PM #1561
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Bloodline bolt guides are notorious for having bad tollerances on the oring glands making the orings fit to tight in the bolt. I would start there by taking just the guide and bolt with lube and see if the bolt slides freely with minimal resistance if it seems like you have to push them together with some force then theres your problem. Then check all the other. Rings that touch the bolt the same way just to confirm theres not to much drag anywhere on your bolt.

When lubing you just want to make your orings look wet. No globs. To much lube can definitely cause bolt stick aswell.
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Old 06-16-2012, 08:08 PM #1562
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tried now a stock bolt, techt bolt with spring wout spring bloodline back cap stock back cap just can't seem to get this it shoots fine when i put a rope out but no single shot doesn't matter the amount of time between shots or not and its intermitten as hell some times 10 slow single shots no full puffs some times 3 out of 10 are good just weird as heck.
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Old 06-16-2012, 08:13 PM #1563
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Old 06-16-2012, 08:38 PM #1564
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2 brand new out of the package

i did lube the solenoid with hater sauce maybe to much? i think i'll take that out next and try that but its so intermittent its annoying

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Old 06-16-2012, 10:15 PM #1565
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Very well could be the hater in the noid.
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Old 06-16-2012, 10:34 PM #1566
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Well its not hater I used a very light layer of Dow 33 and same problem is the 7th element boards 1/2 dwell? If I'm doing 12 then its only 6

*edit* well its not a board issue hooked up another still the problem presists.

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Old 06-16-2012, 11:13 PM #1567
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Take your reg and hook it up to a gauge weather it's on a gun or a tester or what. Air it up and set it to x PSI then let it sit and watch the gauge. If it creeps up then theres your problem then rebuild your reg.
Since I don't have a way of creating that setup, what I did was take the reg from my other shocker (which works great), and connected it to this setup. Still leaking. I took the trigger frame off and found it is leaking at the front of the manifold on the left side. It seems to be coming from the front most oring (meaning towards the eye). I went ahead and relubed all orings and inspected the orings (they look fine). I'm thinking possible a stripped manifold? That or maybe the orings are bad, but unfortunately I don't have any
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Old 06-17-2012, 01:18 PM #1568
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well fellas i am stumped beyond all reason if i put the bolt, solenoid, board, inserts and all in my other shocker it shoots perfectly but in the current build no single shot?

could it be orings in the breech? are there orings in the breech of shockers?
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Old 06-17-2012, 01:21 PM #1569
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Since I don't have a way of creating that setup, what I did was take the reg from my other shocker (which works great), and connected it to this setup. Still leaking. I took the trigger frame off and found it is leaking at the front of the manifold on the left side. It seems to be coming from the front most oring (meaning towards the eye). I went ahead and relubed all orings and inspected the orings (they look fine). I'm thinking possible a stripped manifold? That or maybe the orings are bad, but unfortunately I don't have any
If you are holding the shocker with the feed neck down, and the gun is leaking air from the left side of the front of the manifold, it may not be the manifold or noid at all.

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Solenoid manifold, leak from the left exhaust port:
This leak is the most common and is caused by pressure within the marker leaking out through the solenoid's idle exhaust port.
· The most common cause for this is a damaged or leaking bolt sail o-ring. This is the 16/70 o-ring on the bolt assembly...there is only one of them so you know where it's at. Check my o-ring diagrams under the maintenance section if you are unsure.
· Another common cause is a damaged outside bolt sleeve o-ring, second o-ring from the back (22/70).
· Damaged solenoid internal gasket ("butterfly" gasket) between spool and pilot.
· Leaking solenoid manifold seal. It's logical for the nearest o-ring to be the cause of the leak, but this isn't always the case. For this reason, the easiest practice is to simply replace all six o-rings (three on the top, three on the bottom).
· Damaged o-ring on the left solenoid insert (either the second or third o-ring can cause a leak). These o-rings are 1x3-mm ID. Slowly reinstall the solenoid
· Damaged solenoid spool o-ring (o-ring three according to this diagram). insert; there are multiple sharp edges down inside the chamber and they will cut o-rings to shreds if you slam the insert back into position.
· Stripped solenoid manifold. The solenoid spacer screws must only be installed hand-tight.
· Hidden set screw under the solenoid manifold. This is another set screw that may be leaking. See the section about Body set screws for instructions.
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I did check ZDS, and the description you copied is mentioning leaking from the left exhaust, it is not from the exhaust but from the front most of the solenoid/manifold (as opposed to the back where the exhaust is).
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Old 06-17-2012, 03:55 PM #1571
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Its probly the tiny set screw under the manifold. If so pull it out clean it and the threads and red loctite it back in
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any idea why an Evolve SS manifold wont allow solenoid spacer screws in it?

I tried to screw the solenoid on, and it felt like the spacer screws were tight and they just snapped. It was like the manifold screw hole was slightly to small

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Old 06-17-2012, 04:24 PM #1573
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Its probly the tiny set screw under the manifold. If so pull it out clean it and the threads and red loctite it back in
All I have is a blue loctite stick, will this not be sufficient for sealing?
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