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Old 02-06-2011, 07:24 AM #757
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Im trying to fix my friends shocker, it has a leak coming from the manifold/solenoid. I have already replaced all the manifold o-rings, insert o-rings, bolt o-rings, and put in a new solenoid and it still leaks, so any Ideas?
did you replace the #22 around the outside of the bolt. specifically the second to last #22 seal on the bolt sleeve. When it doesn't seal air from the solenoid resevoir it leaks into the rear ram chamber which then vents out the noid constantly.

Also just replacing orings is not good enough, you need to make sure the oring fit correctly by induvidually tesing the tightness of each seal. I've seen plenty of new orings that couldn't seal because they were ever so slightly too small/large.
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Old 02-06-2011, 09:03 PM #758
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Here is my question, first thing Nasty shocker, with virtue boardwith all stock settings, Evil Detonator Reg.

Now, as I air it up and in attempt to dry fire it, the bolt moves only a little bit and lets out a little quiet puff/pfft sound does not sound like a full cycle or enough air going into it.

What problem am I having?

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Old 02-06-2011, 09:12 PM #759
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most likely pnuematic lockout. Replace your rear inner can oring, outer rear can oring, bolt sail oring, and inner bolt sleeve oring. Or just rebuild the whole bolt since orings are cheap.

Also check to make sure your dwell is correct 10-14ms , your pressure is between 150-200psi, and you have a fresh battery.
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Old 02-06-2011, 09:53 PM #760
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did you replace the #22 around the outside of the bolt. specifically the second to last #22 seal on the bolt sleeve. When it doesn't seal air from the solenoid resevoir it leaks into the rear ram chamber which then vents out the noid constantly.

Also just replacing orings is not good enough, you need to make sure the oring fit correctly by induvidually tesing the tightness of each seal. I've seen plenty of new orings that couldn't seal because they were ever so slightly too small/large.
I'll give that a try, Thanks!
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Old 02-12-2011, 04:30 PM #761
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I have a sft reg that im trying to use on my smart parts vibe. It kept leaking in different areas from the reg including underneath through the hole where you adjust the air intake. Now it doesn't seem to be leaking but the vibe has awful drop off continually after each shot. I have tried another sft reg which works fine on the vibe and doesn't have drop off. I have concluded its the sft reg but have no idea what to do except open it up and check everything out which i have done. ( and little lube)

Any help would be appreciated!
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Old 02-13-2011, 09:09 PM #762
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Is it bad that my shocker is set to 23m/s of dwell, and has hard recoil is that normal?
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Old 02-13-2011, 09:15 PM #763
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thats high. hard recoil is not normal. if you have a gauge try upping your input reg pressure to 190 and lower your dwell
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Old 02-13-2011, 09:18 PM #764
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The lowest I can set my dwell to is 20m/s and anything lower it doesnt even do a full cycle...
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Old 02-13-2011, 09:57 PM #765
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your orings in the can are probably too tight on the bolt. you need to check and see if the bolt is sliding pretty freely through the can. if not, you need to change them out for looser fitting orings. that will help your dwell and kick problem.
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Old 02-13-2011, 10:02 PM #766
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Replaced everything with new orings...lubed everything with Hater Sauce, moves freely...
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Old 02-14-2011, 03:36 PM #767
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Any idea on why there might be a leak out of the solenoid inserts ?
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Old 02-14-2011, 04:07 PM #768
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Misalignment? Damaged oring on the insert itself?
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Old 02-15-2011, 02:20 PM #769
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Is there any retail store online where I can find a brand new shocker? or would my only option be ebay?
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Where can I find a Shocker SFT Solenoid Manifold Screw?
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Can you describe in as much detail as possible the manifold? I'm working on a pretty cool project and i need a full understanding of the manifold; inlcuding which holes for air to travel through are related to each function. Thanks

I have tried researching it myself, including checking out zdspb, but haven't been able to come to any real conclusions
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The first places I would try would be www.punisherspaintball.com and www.smartpartparts.com. If you have no luck there I would suggest contacting www.gogpaintball.com.
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Can you describe in as much detail as possible the manifold? I'm working on a pretty cool project and i need a full understanding of the manifold; inlcuding which holes for air to travel through are related to each function. Thanks

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Air comes into the mani from the front hole in the left insert through the middle hole of the mani. It then goes through the noid and is directed to the front hole of the mani which directs air to the right insert and the front side of the sail. When you pull the trigger and activate the noid the spool switches. This bleeds the air in front of the sail back through the right insert into the noid and out the front channel cut in the mani. At the same time the spool now directs the air from the center hole to the back hole through the left insert and to the rear of the sail. The spool switches again and that air is bled out through the left insert to the noid and out the rear channel of the mani.
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Air comes into the mani from the front hole in the left insert through the middle hole of the mani. It then goes through the noid and is directed to the front hole of the mani which directs air to the right insert and the front side of the sail. When you pull the trigger and activate the noid the spool switches. This bleeds the air in front of the sail back through the right insert into the noid and out the front channel cut in the mani. At the same time the spool now directs the air from the center hole to the back hole through the left insert and to the rear of the sail. The spool switches again and that air is bled out through the left insert to the noid and out the rear channel of the mani.
this should be stickied somewhere iff it isn't already.
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I feel like this thread needed to be brought back to the top. Cause its legit.
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