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Old 04-09-2010, 09:27 PM #1
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Can anyone tell me what type of gun this is???




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Old 04-09-2010, 09:37 PM #2
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It's a very hard to see Autococker. Looks pretty old school, based on the huge drop forward and huge bottle.

The grip looks like it's a mechanical, so it's a classic Cocker. Maybe from 2000?

The front block pneumatics are too hard to see, but it looks pretty conventional.
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Old 04-09-2010, 09:38 PM #3
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1997-1999 WGP autococker with custom milling, Benchmark frame, KAPP pneumatics and dropzone, CP reg, and some kind of DYE Boomstick-inspired barrel.

It's worth $200 or a little less. The 114ci Tank another $100 if it's in hydro and you can find a buyer.

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Old 04-09-2010, 09:40 PM #4
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Autococker. Custom milled. Don't ask what "style" or "name" for the milling, it's a one off custom. Looks like it was done with a manual milling machine. Can't be much more specific with out a better picture. Right hand feed, probably 98-99. Aftermarket reg, pneumatics, and barrel. Adjustable output HPA system, Nitroduck maybe?

EDIT: darn it, you beat me too it Inflicted
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Old 04-10-2010, 05:15 PM #5
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I'm pretty sure that's a Nitroduck SS4500, if I remember the name right.

I have one in the closet right now, on a 120 ci tank. Old school.
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Old 04-10-2010, 08:16 PM #6
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I want to see better up close pics of that milling.
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Old 04-10-2010, 09:46 PM #7
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It looks a lot like the "random chunks of exposed bare aluminum" that was so popular around 1999.

Nowadays the CNC mills are so sophisticated it's ridiculous, but back then people used to take a manual mill and a Cocker body and get to it. Generally the result was some slots and channels milled in at random locations. That's what I think is going on right above the frame.

Stock Cocker bodies were basically just a brick of metal, so milling them was fairly straightforward.
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Old 04-10-2010, 10:01 PM #8
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Some custom houses were way ahead of their time when it came to CNC milling: http://www.mcarterbrown.com/ravi/Art.../Westwood.html

The 'cocker body was a great blank canvas for airsmiths to create works of art. Sure, sometimes they just milled off lines of metal without re-anodizing, but often they really made something neat.
http://www.mcarterbrown.com/ravi/Infosheets.html
Very, very few players are willing to pay to have their guns milled in a one-of-a-kind pattern these days.
It's a lost artform.
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Old 04-10-2010, 10:06 PM #9
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I used to look at Ravi Chopra's site a lot back in the day. I was actually something of an internet Cocker expert back then, mainly because the internet had a lot less content than it does these days.

The Westwood was pretty ahead of its time, as was some of the Boston Paintball Supply stuff, but if you compare it to the stuff today, it's ridiculous. These days you need 3D CAD software to even comprehend what's being done, much less do it by hand.
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Old 04-10-2010, 10:14 PM #10
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What about the Ripper? They started cutting those in 1999 and I'd put that against pretty much any cut-bodied gun made today.
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Old 04-10-2010, 10:42 PM #11
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What about the Ripper? They started cutting those in 1999
I think that's when things really started to change...

Honestly, I'm terrible with dates these days. The other day a guy asked me when I started playing, and I said 1999. Then, later, I thought about it more, and I realized it was more like 1994.

The evolution in milling is driven by the improvements in CNC milling, but it's also just the way things seem to go in paintball. It's like paintball businesses don't actually pay attention to the real world...

This weekend I was trying to get an air system set up for my backup gun. I had an old Nitroduck screw in reg that's about 5" long. It's just ridiculously large. I was realizing it wasn't going to fit on the gun, when the guys at the shop showed me a Myth reg, which is about an inch long. And $40. So I bought one.

That makes me ask, has regulator technology really improved in the last 10 years? Have we really learned so much about springs and o-rings? Or did paintball just have crappy, poorly designed regulators?

It just seems like paintball will be doing manual milling, making 8" long stainless steel regs, and then somebody who actually does this stuff for a living says "hey, you know, I can actually do that correctly, if you want..."
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Old 04-12-2010, 05:07 AM #12
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Old 04-12-2010, 06:47 AM #13
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Old 04-12-2010, 07:28 PM #14
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Cocker I believe
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