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Old 03-19-2010, 09:45 AM #1
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is the nt similar to the geo

from all that i have read it seems to me that the nt and the geo are very similar. both in the way the shoot and sound. i have never shot or even seen a nt in the flesh so i don't really know. could some one thats shot or even better owns both comment on this.

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Old 03-19-2010, 10:13 AM #2
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They both share a few things but aren't one in the same by any means.
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Old 03-19-2010, 10:46 AM #3
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Geo>NT that's all that you need to know. I don't know a ton about the NT, but i know they have way more o-rings, no LCD screen, and an on/off made of some cheap composite that feels like it's going to break when you air it up. The thing they do have in common is that they're both light weight spool valve markers without an LPR.

I don't own an NT, but i have shot one, and while it was smooth, i don't feel the maintenance concerns regarding the O-rings, and the lack of LCD make it worth it, especially when you consider that the Geo is just as good, if not better.

Oh, also, the NT is $1700 vs the Geo for about $950 right now.
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Spazz hit it on the head.

The ASA to my NT was broken out the box. There is no LCD screen, and tons of o-rings on the internal bolt assembly.




The "prop shaft" on the NT breaks apart more. It reveals a small spool thing inside it. Which has more o-rings.
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Old 03-19-2010, 11:10 AM #5
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both have their goods and bads...
both are good markers... both shoots paint balls at 300fps... both are consistent..

both have a different feel to it, how it holds in your hand, how it shoots... some people like this, some dont...

to me, I like to fiddle with things, so having more Orings doesnt bother me much... service time is not much different from one to another...

which one is better for you? I dont know... what I like might not be what you like....

As someone mentioned before, "its your money... dont let some strangers from an internet forum tell you how to spend it"

Dont want this to become another flaming Vs thread

add: oh, and when I first got my NT, it was working perfectly out of the box... so its not ALL bad...
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Old 03-19-2010, 03:46 PM #6
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I came from a Geo with GST kit and now I have an NT so I can give you a decent awnser, not some fanboy stuff like some posts here.


1: They are both spoolvalve markers. The GEO with the GST kit is super smooth and quiet without any kick. The NT shares the same thing, maybe a bit louder but nothing I personally bother. I notice my NT is shooting way more ball on ball accurate then the GEO. I couldn't believe it when I played with the NT at first. Real sick!

2: The bolt of the NT is not all the same but has some parts that look like GEO parts. The NT bolt has more O-rings and is a little bit more difficult to get apart. Personally I don't bother because I maintain my guns always after every day of play and I'll take my time on them.

3: The efficiency of the GEO is like every other spoolvalve marker, not that great. The NT has WAY better efficiency. Without tuning the bolt the NT can shoot 10 pods easily on a 4500k fill. I always fill my tank after every Xball round so personally I don't care about the efficiency, as long as the marker can shoot 6 pods and a hopper at least without getting problems.

4: The NT is one of the lighest markers out. So if your looking for that, the NT wins on that point. How it holds is personal. The NT is my big favorite here, this gun is so ergonomic, butter!

5: I like the trigger on the NT way more then the Geo. But this is offcourse again personal.

6: The missing LCD screen, I don't care. I set my NT to 10.5 Millennium mode with the good allround dwell setting and it's done, I never have to switch modes. I got the Virtue board, so IF I need to change, it can be done without removing the grips.

7: About the grips, the NT is a big favorite here. When you get the feeling for it you can switch the battery under 10 seconds. I really like the tool-less design!

8: ASA, don't know what people are talking about. It doesn't feel cheap. The big difference is that the macroline is comming out of the front. For me this is a big pro. I want to play as tight as possible. On the geo the macroline fitting is sticking out and blocking my wrist. On the NT nothing is, really like it!

9: Price, the Geo is like 500/600+ dollars cheaper, so if price is important, the Geo wins offcourse. I don't care, I earn enough money so I don't feel a couple of, in my case, euro's more.

10: The NT is a brand new design and has some new technology. Every first marker from a brand new serie has it's child deceases as we call it here. The Geo had this as well. Make sure you got all the updates if you are going for a NT. The GEO will always have the updates it needs because it's way longer released.


Hope it helps a bit. Don't listen to fanboy's. Maybe you can shoot them both somewhere and make your choice! Goodluck!
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I came from a Geo with GST kit and now I have an NT so I can give you a decent awnser, not some fanboy stuff like some posts here.


1: They are both spoolvalve markers. The GEO with the GST kit is super smooth and quiet without any kick. The NT shares the same thing, maybe a bit louder but nothing I personally bother. I notice my NT is shooting way more ball on ball accurate then the GEO. I couldn't believe it when I played with the NT at first. Real sick!

2: The bolt of the NT is not all the same but has some parts that look like GEO parts. The NT bolt has more O-rings and is a little bit more difficult to get apart. Personally I don't bother because I maintain my guns always after every day of play and I'll take my time on them.

3: The efficiency of the GEO is like every other spoolvalve marker, not that great. The NT has WAY better efficiency. Without tuning the bolt the NT can shoot 10 pods easily on a 4500k fill. I always fill my tank after every Xball round so personally I don't care about the efficiency, as long as the marker can shoot 6 pods and a hopper at least without getting problems.

4: The NT is one of the lighest markers out. So if your looking for that, the NT wins on that point. How it holds is personal. The NT is my big favorite here, this gun is so ergonomic, butter!

5: I like the trigger on the NT way more then the Geo. But this is offcourse again personal.

6: The missing LCD screen, I don't care. I set my NT to 10.5 Millennium mode with the good allround dwell setting and it's done, I never have to switch modes. I got the Virtue board, so IF I need to change, it can be done without removing the grips.

7: About the grips, the NT is a big favorite here. When you get the feeling for it you can switch the battery under 10 seconds. I really like the tool-less design!

8: ASA, don't know what people are talking about. It doesn't feel cheap. The big difference is that the macroline is comming out of the front. For me this is a big pro. I want to play as tight as possible. On the geo the macroline fitting is sticking out and blocking my wrist. On the NT nothing is, really like it!

9: Price, the Geo is like 500/600+ dollars cheaper, so if price is important, the Geo wins offcourse. I don't care, I earn enough money so I don't feel a couple of, in my case, euro's more.

10: The NT is a brand new design and has some new technology. Every first marker from a brand new serie has it's child deceases as we call it here. The Geo had this as well. Make sure you got all the updates if you are going for a NT. The GEO will always have the updates it needs because it's way longer released.


Hope it helps a bit. Don't listen to fanboy's. Maybe you can shoot them both somewhere and make your choice! Goodluck!
I completely agree... If money is an issue then Geo wins hands down. I personally think the geo is the best bang for the buck. But if money is not an issue I'd get the NT.
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Old 03-19-2010, 05:02 PM #8
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Good post Vissa, if only more people would realize about guns/gear, it only matter what you like. I really liked my Geo, but I love my Luxe, yessir. For the price, I definitely think the Geo the best gun out at that price range.

Anyways do the best you can to shoot or play a game with whatever gun your considering and make your decision from there.
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Old 03-19-2010, 05:45 PM #9
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Geo>NT that's all that you need to know. I don't know a ton about the NT, but i know they have way more o-rings, no LCD screen, and an on/off made of some cheap composite that feels like it's going to break when you air it up. The thing they do have in common is that they're both light weight spool valve markers without an LPR.

I don't own an NT, but i have shot one, and while it was smooth, i don't feel the maintenance concerns regarding the O-rings, and the lack of LCD make it worth it, especially when you consider that the Geo is just as good, if not better.

Oh, also, the NT is $1700 vs the Geo for about $950 right now.

i personally came from a geo and they shoot identical imo.

while it has been said if money isnt an issue the nt wins hands down, you dont really need a screen and the hands down better ergonomics of the nt by far trump the "easibility" of the screen. While the nt does have more o rings, static o rings dont really leak unless you like to bathe the bolt assembly in sand. only 4-5 orings need lube while completing regular maintenance.

verdict: shoot both, make a purchase, profit

*edit* and the asa is aluminum? they fixed all of the issues regarding the asa so that shouldn't be a deciding factor
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Old 03-19-2010, 07:25 PM #10
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haha... here we go....


This is why Vs threads are not allowed...
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find someone at your local field who has an NT and ask to shoot a pod of ur paint through it. then find a guy at your field who has a Geo and ask to shoot a pod of ur paint through it. see which feels better and decide. never go by another's opinion because all you'll get is their "opinion"

if you decide to get a Geo, wait a bit for the new Geo Plus. it will come with the GST bolt stock and will retail for $895.

NT will run you $1550.

personally i think that's a big price difference for similar performance, but that's just my "opinion" both incredible guns though. won't be disappointed with either.
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Old 03-19-2010, 10:16 PM #12
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This is why Vs threads are not allowed...
lol the "every time you masterbate" pic is pretty epic also
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Old 03-20-2010, 10:33 AM #13
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I shot both last weekend, I own a Vicious Geo, the NT belonged to a guy at the field I was at. The NT has less kick no doubt. It was as accurate as my Geo maybe a little better. However when he began telling me about changing out bolt tips and parts to get velocity right on the NT I didnt like the sound of that. I won't be getting rid of my Geo just yet to go after the NT. However I am a long time DM shooter (bout 15 DMs) and have only owned 3 PE guns, I can see me owning an NT before its all said and done. BUT I will not pay new price for an NT when it doesnt just far surpass my Geo.
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Old 03-20-2010, 06:48 PM #14
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I shot with both before i bought one and tell you what, NT has less kick, besides that Geo owned the NT.
Take note that I'm not a eclipse fanboy, my main marker is an autococker and I always played with wgp markers... so this was my impression indeed...
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Old 03-20-2010, 06:48 PM #15
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thanks for all the info guys. i already own a geo and im a gun whore lusting for another great gun. thing is i don't know anyone that own a nt so asking here is all i got before buying one. i love my geo and i never ment for this to be a vs thread and much less a flame war. i know both are great guns i just wanted to know how similar they are. like any other gun whore here after playing while with the same gun you start getting that itch lol to get another. so again thanks for the info its been great. especially vissa's write up. i now head to ebay hoping to get a good deal on an nt.
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Old 03-20-2010, 06:54 PM #16
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what, what!!!!!! just got an black gold nt with virtue board for 1400.
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