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495demonic · 02-24-2010, 04:01 PM

a bouncy trigger isnt ramp or even close so comparing those doesn't really make sense. and im saying xball games go fast..

jmac3 · 02-24-2010, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by 495demonic

a bouncy trigger isnt ramp or even close so comparing those doesn't really make sense. and im saying xball games go fast..

Ramping=/=Xball

A bouncy trigger isn't comparable to ramp with a cap you are correct. One locks players in to a certain ROF no matter what(or get penalized). The other lets guns take off on their own without a cap.

KBrady[UMASS] · 02-24-2010, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by 495demonic

a bouncy trigger isnt ramp or even close so comparing those doesn't really make sense. and im saying xball games go fast..

Read closely and you will see I'm not comparing them. I'm stating that, in many instances, ramp is used as a way to simply block out rule violations in regards to firing mode. People will set up bouncy guns and use "cheater modes" etc. They check at chrono on way in, but we all know you can get around that. By simply allowing ramp and setting a BPS cap, you can use a PACT timer at will to ensure a gun is within regulations. Ramp =/= bouncing. Ramp is used to eliminate bouncing as an advantage.

XBall games tend to be fast because there are a series of points. That encourages aggression because if you push to hard and make a mistake, you didn't lose the entire game, just a single point. I don't know another league besides NCPA Class AA that plays 5man with ramp (just my own ignorance most likely), so I will revert back to my experience there.... We went to ramp this past September (start of college season) for both the Class A (XBall) and Class AA (5man). The 5man division saw little change in overall play with ramp. The games were a little faster because at first NCPA tried to follow PSP with the 10.5 ramp which is a little slow by most accounts but since adjusting along with PSP back up to 12.5, the games are played in virtually the same fashion as when it was semi.

jmac3 · 02-24-2010, 04:17 PM

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I don't know another league besides NCPA Class AA that plays 5man with ramp (just my own ignorance most likely),

PSP...

KBrady[UMASS] · 02-24-2010, 04:26 PM

Isn't that theoretically "Race-to-2"? I know that's not necessarily "Xball" but I don't know if it's necessarily "5man" either....

NTran · 02-24-2010, 04:40 PM

You know what makes games faster in XBall?
It's not just the ramping. I don't believe that ramping significantly makes the game faster.

-The field is bigger on an XBall field so the bunkers are farther apart.
-Coaching makes games go faster.
-You play a lot of games on the same layout.

In general, 5man games tend to be faster than in the past because bunkers have gotten smaller and a lot of layouts put small bunkers in the back lines.

Some people just like semi and some like ramping.

sliver1489 · 02-24-2010, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by NTran

You know what makes games faster in XBall?
It's not just the ramping. I don't believe that ramping significantly makes the game faster.

-The field is bigger on an XBall field so the bunkers are farther apart.
-Coaching makes games go faster.
-You play a lot of games on the same layout.

In general, 5man games tend to be faster than in the past because bunkers have gotten smaller and a lot of layouts put small bunkers in the back lines.

Some people just like semi and some like ramping.

...I think xball is also faster because the fields are more square, which allows for wider angles = faster kills.

495demonic · 02-24-2010, 06:36 PM

you know what i think.. this dumb thread should be closed btw lobster guy i didn't read anything you said. typed too much for my mind

jmac3 · 02-24-2010, 06:36 PM

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you know what i think.. this dumb thread should be closed btw lobster guy i didn't read anything you said. typed too much for my mind

AKA: You said things that make me wrong. I won't even bother reading it.

FU2N · 02-24-2010, 06:38 PM

silly kids nowadays..all illiterate..

495demonic · 02-24-2010, 07:01 PM

lol no i just dont waste my time with people who answer what i said with something thats irrelevant.

FU2N · 02-24-2010, 07:06 PM

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lol no i just dont waste my time with people who answer what i said with something thats irrelevant.

yea i know semi is so gay.

495demonic · 02-24-2010, 07:07 PM

very mature.

KBrady[UMASS] · 02-24-2010, 07:12 PM

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very mature.

You are the authority on mature. You immediately dismiss any facts which don't support you as irrelevant.

J. Stein · 02-24-2010, 07:12 PM

495, how old are you?

FU2N · 02-24-2010, 07:14 PM

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very mature.

im 19 i get my jollys off shooting people in the face..

VSOwnage · 02-24-2010, 07:41 PM

Buzz off 495.

Rockyboarder · 02-24-2010, 08:02 PM

What once was intelligent conversation is no more. You got scholten in here trying to talks some sense, jmac backing him up, and then comes the little ones.

Can we get back on topic?

KBrady[UMASS] · 02-24-2010, 08:25 PM

Am I a little one for using empirical evidence?

Rockyboarder · 02-24-2010, 09:40 PM

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Am I a little one for using empirical evidence?

Nah Kyle. I shoulda added you to that. My bad haha. You actually know what you're talking about.

KBrady[UMASS] · 02-24-2010, 09:44 PM

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Nah Kyle. I shoulda added you to that. My bad haha. You actually know what you're talking about SOMETIMES.

Fixed