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Old 02-18-2010, 09:09 PM #1
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Because I'm not Christian?

Ok, could one of you Christians out there explain to me why one of my ex girlfriends ended our relationship because I wasn't Christian?
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Old 02-18-2010, 10:44 PM #2
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Are you sure that was the reason?

Or was it just the reason she told you about?

Hypothetically if you didn't support her in her beliefs, and degraded her because of them it would be a pretty darn good reason for her to leave you. Not because you didn't share the beliefs, but because you were a douche about it (remember it's a hypothetical example, you're probably a real nice person).

You'll have to be more specific about what kind of "Christian" she is. In use the term has a very broad meaning.
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Old 02-18-2010, 10:49 PM #3
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Not to rain on your parade, but that probably isn't the true reason why she ended the relationship.
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Old 02-18-2010, 11:16 PM #4
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Personally if you don't share the same beliefs I don't think it could have worked out anyway. A persons religion helps to shape there worldview and who they are as a person. If two people don't share that world view it can be hard if not impossible to stay together. In the Bible it does tell Christ followers not to be "unequally yoked" I could look it up if you want the chapter and verse but I believe in context it is referring to business transactions but in principle it would apply to all relationships.
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Old 02-18-2010, 11:36 PM #5
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Fubarius, I would debate with her brother on the topic quite a bit, but I was always respectful. Her whole family are weslyan methodist if that means anything.

Crede777, yeah your probably right.

Benshan, I believe you are referring to 2 Corinthians 6:14-18. It also states that non-believers are wicked. Am I reading that right?
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Old 02-19-2010, 09:03 PM #6
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I don't know any of them personally, so I can't say. so.... here's some guesstimates:

as previously stated, that's probably not why it ended, but it's a good "excuse".

debating her family couldn't have helped no matter how civil you guys kept it.

truthfully, either she's that closed minded or y'all are really too different, so it's probably not such a loss
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Old 02-19-2010, 10:34 PM #7
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Fubarius, I would debate with her brother on the topic quite a bit, but I was always respectful. Her whole family are weslyan methodist if that means anything.

Crede777, yeah your probably right.

Benshan, I believe you are referring to 2 Corinthians 6:14-18. It also states that non-believers are wicked. Am I reading that right?
no, it's saying that they serve a lord other than Christ, which is by semantic definition wicked, but it isn't calling non-believers evil. Paul basically advises against entering into marriage with a non-believer because it is going to be a big conflict, but he also states that if you are in a relationship with a non-believer then don't end it because who knows what God could use to attract them. It's a fine line and there are a huge range of beliefs as to where you are supposed to draw the line.

Personally, I look at the verses and I believe that as long as your relationship with a non-believer does not cause you to stumble in your path then you are not compelled to abandon it. However, if there is often conflict and disharmony because of the belief then it is clearer what should happen.
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Not to rain on your parade, but that probably isn't the true reason why she ended the relationship.

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Old 04-01-2010, 10:53 PM #9
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Many practicing Christians are woefully ignorant. Move on.
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Old 04-01-2010, 11:24 PM #10
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As a Christian, I wouldn't enter a relationship with a non Christian. The reasons are fairly straightforward - my faith shapes my decisions in every area of life. I'm not a person who happens to be a Christian - I'm a Christian who happens to live around people. It's the most fundamental part of my being in many ways. Entering a relationship with someone who doesn't share something as utterly foundational as my faith is just silly. Marrying one would be even worse, it'd be like tying two horses that were being told to go in different directions to the same carriage. It's obviously not going to work without compromise, but I'm not willing to compromise my faith. To compromise my faith would render it pointless.

That's probably her reasoning too, depending on the type of Christian she is. It'll also be family pressure. If I were her Dad I wouldn't want her marrying a non Christian for exactly the reasons I've already stated. There are other reasons too - the Bible says pretty clearly that entering a marriage with a non Christian is just asking for trouble. Also, I couldn't bear to know that my wife wasn't saved. That would tear me up inside every day.

That shouldn't be too hard to understand...

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Wow, dug up for a ***** joke.

Anyways, I don't actually know her so my prior assessment of it probably not being the true reason for her canning the relationship may be off.

It's either that she associates Christianity with ideals that she feels are central to who she is. Meaning, if you're not Christian, you aren't like her. We can debate whether this is right or wrong, but what's important is what she perceives and if she thinks not being Christian means you guys are dissimilar, then that's how she'll behave.

Or it's as I said before, a scapegoat.
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Old 04-02-2010, 07:34 AM #12
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As a Christian, I wouldn't enter a relationship with a non Christian. The reasons are fairly straightforward - my faith shapes my decisions in every area of life. I'm not a person who happens to be a Christian - I'm a Christian who happens to live around people. It's the most fundamental part of my being in many ways. Entering a relationship with someone who doesn't share something as utterly foundational as my faith is just silly. Marrying one would be even worse, it'd be like tying two horses that were being told to go in different directions to the same carriage. It's obviously not going to work without compromise, but I'm not willing to compromise my faith. To compromise my faith would render it pointless.

That's probably her reasoning too, depending on the type of Christian she is. It'll also be family pressure. If I were her Dad I wouldn't want her marrying a non Christian for exactly the reasons I've already stated. There are other reasons too - the Bible says pretty clearly that entering a marriage with a non Christian is just asking for trouble. Also, I couldn't bear to know that my wife wasn't saved. That would tear me up inside every day.

That shouldn't be too hard to understand...
Case and point.
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it's "case in point", and of what?
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it's "case in point", and of what?
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As a Christian, I wouldn't enter a relationship with a non Christian. The reasons are fairly straightforward - my faith shapes my decisions in every area of life. I'm not a person who happens to be a Christian - I'm a Christian who happens to live around people. It's the most fundamental part of my being in many ways. Entering a relationship with someone who doesn't share something as utterly foundational as my faith is just silly. Marrying one would be even worse, it'd be like tying two horses that were being told to go in different directions to the same carriage. It's obviously not going to work without compromise, but I'm not willing to compromise my faith. To compromise my faith would render it pointless.

That's probably her reasoning too, depending on the type of Christian she is. It'll also be[color="Red"] family pressure] If I were her Dad I wouldn't want her marrying a non Christian for exactly the reasons I've already stated. There are other reasons too - the Bible says pretty clearly that entering a marriage with a non Christian is just asking for trouble. Also, I couldn't bear to know that my wife wasn't saved. That would tear me up inside every day.

That shouldn't be too hard to understand...
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T-Vizz, were you saying in your first post that many practicing Christian are ignorant of how much it goes against their own professed beliefs to get into a relationship with an NC in the first place? If so, I would agree with you there.
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Well, Many are hypocrites, which is kind of what you are saying.

Many are Irrational and ignorant of the facts for flowing a religion they have no/little evidence to believe is correct. Which is what I am saying.

If you can rationally and reasonably respond to this I will consider your position. Please note, saying you agree with it as a historical account dose not help your cause.



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I'm not interested in a debate, even if you weren't deliberately trying to drag the thread off topic. If you want to debate this stuff be a sport and put it in the relevant topic or make a new one.
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Well, Many are hypocrites, which is kind of what you are saying.

Many are Irrational and ignorant of the facts for flowing a religion they have no/little evidence to believe is correct. Which is what I am saying.

If you can rationally and reasonably respond to this I will consider your position. Please note, saying you agree with it as a historical account dose not help your cause.



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now, not saying at all this is related to christian/not christian but:

if you believed the purpose of a relationship is so you could **** like rabbits 24/7, and your girlfriend only wanted to have sex once every other month, how well would that relationship work out?

It's not wrong or "ignorant" to want to hold similar values as your lifelong partner. It's ignorant and stupid to think the relationship will work if you don't.
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Yes, that is a perfectly valid point, but I am arguing against starting logic, not the conclusion.

I am arguing against basing ones life upon a 2,000 year old book written by regular people.
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Yes, that is a perfectly valid point, but I am arguing against starting logic, not the conclusion.

I am arguing against basing ones life upon a 2,000 year old book written by regular people.
you're not arguing at all. That's called an ad hominem fallacy. It has nothing to do with the topic at hand.
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Yes, that is a perfectly valid point, but I am arguing against starting logic, not the conclusion.

I am arguing against basing ones life upon a 2,000 year old book written by regular people.
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