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Old 05-26-2014, 07:05 PM #1
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z2 on CO2

My zenith operates just fine on compressed air, but when i use co2 i get an air blast between my fame and air grip every time, is there something i can tune to calm this down a little bit?
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Old 05-26-2014, 07:22 PM #2
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Install an anti siphon tube in your co2 tank....prob easier just to switch to hpa imo
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Old 05-26-2014, 07:58 PM #3
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HPA is 2 hours away from me in any direction, so im gonna mess around with it until it can do it
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Old 05-26-2014, 10:49 PM #4
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To protect your seals. I would suggest getting a siphon tube then.
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Old 05-27-2014, 10:06 AM #5
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To protect your seals. I would suggest getting a siphon tube then.
Or get a good coiled remote, that can help with co2 a lot.
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Old 05-28-2014, 08:41 PM #6
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i got a remote coil and it works MUCH better, im looking at extending out the macroline now
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Old 05-28-2014, 09:08 PM #7
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i got a remote coil and it works MUCH better, im looking at extending out the macroline now
Really won't get much gain from using a longer macroline. You'd have to use somewhere over 2-3' to even possibly notice even a slight difference. If stuck with using CO2, the anti-siphon and remote is going to be your best workaround.
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Old 05-29-2014, 02:50 AM #8
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DO NOT USE CO2 in the ZII!

You will have reg problems for sure, lol. Co2 runs at a higher pressure than HPA off the start, until it's fired so many times

Then it loses pressure.

CO2 is a terrible gas to use for an Electro marker like the ZII, or even the standard blitz.

It might just be worth it to get a cheap scuba tank and a fill station. The only guns that really like Co2 anymore are older model tippmanns and spyders.

and maybe the Kaos.


Get HPA. You'll be tons happier.
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Old 05-29-2014, 08:40 AM #9
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Just buy an hpa compressor.
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Old 05-29-2014, 03:24 PM #10
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DO NOT USE CO2 in the ZII!

You will have reg problems for sure, lol. Co2 runs at a higher pressure than HPA off the start, until it's fired so many times

Then it loses pressure.

CO2 is a terrible gas to use for an Electro marker like the ZII, or even the standard blitz.

It might just be worth it to get a cheap scuba tank and a fill station. The only guns that really like Co2 anymore are older model tippmanns and spyders.

and maybe the Kaos.


Get HPA. You'll be tons happier.
This.
I had issues with the Blitz on CO2 but HPA was a dream on that thing. Azodin has even said that they don't recommend CO2 on their markers with regs
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Old 05-29-2014, 08:44 PM #11
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i wonder if i could throw an expansion chamber over onto my z2...
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Old 05-29-2014, 08:53 PM #12
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Not sure you would see any performance changes.
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Old 06-10-2014, 01:27 AM #13
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ok heres what ive done.

i added 1 ft of macroline from the ASA to the reg,
I put an expansion chamber above the reg,
i put two expansion chambers on the asa,
i use a remote line and keep the tank on my back,
and i adjusted the reg pressure down slightly.

it munches co2 all day long and doesn't even get cold. the barrel doesnt even puff white smoke.
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Old 06-10-2014, 01:33 PM #14
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ok heres what ive done.

i added 1 ft of macroline from the ASA to the reg,
I put an expansion chamber above the reg,
i put two expansion chambers on the asa,
i use a remote line and keep the tank on my back,
and i adjusted the reg pressure down slightly.

it munches co2 all day long and doesn't even get cold. the barrel doesnt even puff white smoke.
wait. you added all of that at once? I would like to see that setup.
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Old 06-10-2014, 10:49 PM #15
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Old 06-10-2014, 10:54 PM #16
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wait. you added all of that at once? I would like to see that setup.
I second that... I'd like to request a vid post ASAP!!!
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Old 06-11-2014, 02:20 AM #17
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ok i'll have it out this weekend and ill get some pics and a vid for you guys
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ok i'll have it out this weekend and ill get some pics and a vid for you guys
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Old 06-12-2014, 03:11 AM #19
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here it is now, i played with it some more tonight. took the one above the reg off. i added another foot of macroline with a normal KAOS ASA; and a kaos gas through grip.

I'm thinking about replacing the gas through grip of the kaos with a massive 4-6 disc expansion chamber.

Oh and i put a shocktech drop on it
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Old 06-12-2014, 03:17 AM #20
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Even though the gas through grip doesnt have thermal discs in it... i think when the gun cycles... and pulls co2 from the tank... when it goes from the small line to the large gas through grip ... it loses pressure momentarily as it enters the larger area.... thus raising the boiling point and causing more liquid to turn into a gas.

The black expansion chamber in the picture i think has 2 thermal discs in it. as it goes from one large area... through the hole in the disc... and into the next open area... it gains and loses pressure and has plenty of surface area to draw heat from to boil. (co2 is endothermic).

When i first hooked a co2 tank up to this gun and gased it... the reg immediately got cold... you know where co2 is boiling at because it removes the heat. with this set up the reg never gets cold so im confident it is getting pure gas. ill force a case or two through it saturday and see if this is going to work
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Old 06-12-2014, 03:21 AM #21
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one more observation. I think one more thing that might be happening is that as the liquid hits the gas through/expansion area on the z2's ASA... when it turns into a gas and gains pressure... it pushes the liquid back down the line and back into the tank.

whereas the co2 tank to reg set up was the opposite... i think when the piston closed off in the reg it was pulling co2 from the bottle into the reg like a vacuum. I was getting blasts of snow from every hole in the gun that could possibly blow snow, haha.
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