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Old 02-04-2010, 04:37 PM #22
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A very small amout of metal is removed.
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Old 02-04-2010, 04:45 PM #23
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hmm... don't you have the EF Rod? isn't that reducing the amount of air in the chamber? I thing the bolt guide is only milled down slightly and I'm sure it would have no greater effect than the NDZ can does and it would actually be less effect. I don't no the numbers but I'm sure this mod isn't going to greatly effect the air that is dumped.
It's a matter of dwell. If I have to crank down the dwell and crank down the HPR, then the consistency is likely to fluctuate a lot.
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Old 02-04-2010, 04:51 PM #24
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Gonna wait for an efficiency test. Looks great! Nice job. My shocker spring modded was amazing.
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Old 02-04-2010, 05:01 PM #25
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Yeah can we see how much paint you get off of atleast a 4000 fill?
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Old 02-04-2010, 05:07 PM #26
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If you lower your dwell and increase your input pressure you get great efficiency. I have never had any troubles with bad fps with a spring. Luxe and shocker.

If you have a problem with lowering your dwell, then keep your dwell at 14 and turn down your fsdo to 0 and have a super dependable luxe still.. You might need to turn down your input pressure then, but that would also help with efficiency gains.

Did you notice in the video that the spring made it shoot hotter the stock!

I did not touch the input pressure at all.

Machining out the back of the bolt and the bolt guide is not going to effect anything.

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Old 02-04-2010, 05:32 PM #27
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When I get my parts back, I'll do an efficiency test and post up the vid. Hopefully next week.
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Old 02-04-2010, 05:35 PM #28
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i think you should further tune "your" settings.
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Old 02-04-2010, 05:43 PM #29
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So if you decide not to use this mod, you can take out the spring and it will revert back to normal?
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Old 02-04-2010, 05:50 PM #30
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So if you decide not to use this mod, you can take out the spring and it will revert back to normal?
Sure will. Can't imagine why you would..lol
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Old 02-04-2010, 05:55 PM #31
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I love how the way the Luxe shoots. After this mod, did it kick more or like do anything different to the way the Luxe shoots?
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Old 02-04-2010, 06:03 PM #32
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Old 02-04-2010, 06:18 PM #33
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I love how the way the Luxe shoots. After this mod, did it kick more or like do anything different to the way the Luxe shoots?
same question did it have any more kick or anything. I really don't mind efficiency to much.
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Old 02-04-2010, 06:35 PM #34
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I love how the way the Luxe shoots. After this mod, did it kick more or like do anything different to the way the Luxe shoots?
The spring will slow down the rate of fire on the return giving you a smoother shot just like the adjustment manifold does. But the adjustment manifold will help to further fine tune any kick.
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Old 02-04-2010, 06:38 PM #35
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Its not going to change the way the gun shoots unless you lower the dwell. When the dwell is lowered you will have to run a slightly higher pressure to get the proper fps. The lower you go on the dwell the better efficiency you will get, but, you will have a less consistent gun. You have to account for electronic errors. A small inconsistency in the noids stroke at such a low dwell is what causes problems. Just ask the shocker owners. Although the luxe isn't a shocker.
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Old 02-04-2010, 06:41 PM #36
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The spring will slow down the rate of fire on the return giving you a smoother shot just like the adjustment manifold does. But the adjustment manifold will help to further fine tune any kick.
Manifold adjustment will be a little more tricky with the spring.
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Old 02-04-2010, 06:42 PM #37
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You could do two set ups.

Run a lower dwell and a higher input pressure

Run a stock dwell with a lower input pressure

As seen in the video

See what works best for your gun.
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Old 02-04-2010, 07:54 PM #38
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On my shocker with the mod, I had zero kick. Even while dry firing my gun. My gun was on a dwell of 7, and could probably have gone lower.
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Old 02-04-2010, 08:22 PM #39
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Old 02-04-2010, 08:26 PM #40
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what kind of machine are you using to machine off the bolt guide ?
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Old 02-04-2010, 08:32 PM #41
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Great mods like this really upset me especially regarding the Luxe. You would think the engineers that design these markers would have known that adding a spring, an efficiency rod, and a plastic bolt (like a NOX) would make a Luxe much better. For the insane price tag all of these mods SHOULD COME STOCK on one. The same goes for NXT Shockers. A spring and a plastic bolt should have came stock in them...it's lame how these great ideas have to come from the customers and not the friggin' company that makes them. Anybody agree?
Springs wear out, how would a company supply you with unlimited springs? Also, if they didn't include springs you wouldn't be very happy to buy new springs every few months would you?
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Old 02-04-2010, 08:36 PM #42
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