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Old 01-19-2010, 02:56 AM #1
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Help with rebel xsi + 18-55

alright guys I'm a total noob to dslr's so please help me out.

I am shooting a school play tomorrow, pictures for the yearbook with a rebel xsi with 18-55mm lense - i must learn how to utilize this camera to freeze the picture with out flash in very low light.

what kind of settings should I use? (shutter/aperature etc)

all the pictures i take are like motion blurred when the people move :S
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Old 01-19-2010, 02:59 AM #2
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I assume it'll be dark in there, so you won't have a snowball's chance in hell of doing it without flash.
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Old 01-19-2010, 03:02 AM #3
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Put it on the lowest aperature, iso to what'd id think be 800 so you get some more light without terribad noise and then maybe 1/30 sec? maybe 1/50. might want a tripod or sumfin. But in total its probably just not going to work at all.
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Old 01-19-2010, 03:03 AM #4
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there will be stage lights if that helps. thanks for the fast reply though.
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Old 01-19-2010, 03:08 AM #5
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You might have to bump the iso up even higher than 800. At 18mm, the lens can only be open to f/ 3.5. That's pretty wide to get anything clearly unless you're close and then at 55mm, you'll only be open to f/ 4.5 or something. Not enough. Why can't you use flash? I'm sure some of the parents in the crowd will be using flash. Do it right and you won't need to take more than 10 shots.
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Old 01-19-2010, 03:18 AM #6
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I believe at 55 its 5.6

In anycase, even with a flash, depending on how far off you are you prolly wont get the light needed. I dont think the xsi handles iso well above 800 at all either.
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Old 01-19-2010, 03:18 AM #7
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Turn the ISO on the camera up to 1600, even though it will be noisy it will be fine in B&W in the yearbook. Even in color it should be usable. Set the white balance to tungsten, and use spot metering. Find the correct exposure of the stage and set your camera in manual mode for that exposure.
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Old 01-19-2010, 03:19 AM #8
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I would prefer not to use it as it causes distraction to the actors and attracts attention to my self, especialy when I take ALOT of pictures
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Old 01-19-2010, 10:09 AM #9
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I believe at 55 its 5.6

In anycase, even with a flash, depending on how far off you are you prolly wont get the light needed. I dont think the xsi handles iso well above 800 at all either.
The xsi is pretty good at 1600; not fantastically amazing but it's no D40 either.

With the kit lens you're either going to get some ok shots or be totally ****ed. It's not very fast at all and I can't wait to replace mine with a 24-70 2.8 way down the road.
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Old 01-19-2010, 02:08 PM #10
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Just some advice for next time. You should go to the rehearsals where you could have used a flash and moved around.
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Okay guys, I actualy got a d60 + tamron 70-300mm will this be any better and what settings should I use with this?
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Old 01-19-2010, 04:51 PM #12
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personally shooting a d3000 when i shoot paintball at a slightly dark indoor field i shoot at the lowest apeture possible with a 55-200 VR kit lens and it really is fine ISO around 800 tripod might help? might want to go with a wider lens depending on the size of the stage
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http://www.tamron.com/lenses/prod/70300_di_a017.asp

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I doubt it's going to help much. The lens is still f/4-5.6. Crank up the ISO to 800 (or 1600 if that doesn't work). The 70mm will help. Also, the D60 isn't horrible when it comes to noise. I have no experience with that lens, either. Just do some good BW conversions and you should be okay.
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Yes that lense, Our yearbook is in color though
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If you know how to use photoshop you should be able to clean up the noise while preserving the edges. Check out this thread for some good info. You're going to have to be very tuned in to the light on stage if you're shooting with a slow lens like that.
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Old 01-19-2010, 07:28 PM #17
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alright i got iso 800, 1/125, in Shutter prior. mode.
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Old 01-19-2010, 07:34 PM #18
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Wat. Why? Throw it in av. You won't get 1/125.
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set it at Av f5.6 iso 800, if you are getting below 1/80th of a second increase your iso to 1600. It is much easier to fix noisy/grainy photos then it is to fix blurry photos. Also if you can, use a tripod or a monopod to help cut down on camera shake. Whatever you do, dont use Tv or manual because the lighting will be changing alot and your exposures will be weird. The other thing you can do is slightly underexpose your photos and then boost the raw files in post to get you a little bit faster shutter speed.
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I thoguht it turned out decent.

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Okay guys, I actualy got a d60 + tamron 70-300mm will this be any better and what settings should I use with this?
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