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Old 05-24-2015, 11:35 PM #1
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A1 fly mini reg creep

Has anyone ever have a problem of their mini reg pressure creeping up? And before anyone should ask I did turn the ABS off to see if that was the issue and it didn't stop it. I changed all of the orings and luned it but it still does it. Any suggestions? Thanks!
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Old 05-24-2015, 11:57 PM #2
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Inspect your mini reg piston small piston. That is usually the cause.

The small o-ring on the tip of the piston may be worn, or may not have enough grease to seal.
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Old 05-25-2015, 12:10 AM #3
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Sounds like it's time for a new reg! It is worn a little bit so I tried the D-lite stem and I have the same results. I may just get a new reg to put on and just be done with the issue. Thanks for your help. Know of any decent regs other than CP and Dye ( I don't like them).
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Old 05-25-2015, 12:53 AM #4
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Not necessarily the most aesthetic reg in existence, but the Sidewinder is a top performer.

That having been said, an o-ring rebuild of your mini-reg and possibly replacing your small piston would likely remedy your problem.
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If you have the gauges, check to make sure it's not just a slow recharge rate.
I had the same problem, the recharge was taking to long and making it seem like creep.
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Old 05-25-2015, 11:42 AM #6
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If you have the gauges, check to make sure it's not just a slow recharge rate.
I had the same problem, the recharge was taking to long and making it seem like creep.
That's a good point too. The Angel mini-reg relies on a constant input pressure. IF your tank reg is creeping, the angel mini-reg will creep.

I had that problem on a few of the early ninja regs/PE pure energy regs, and since their regulator seat isn't user serviceable, I ditched them.
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How would I stop a slow recharge rate? That seems to be the issue.
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Old 05-30-2015, 01:20 AM #8
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Do you have another piston to try?

Or better, yet, another tank to try to eliminate that from being a possibility?
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Or better, yet, another tank to try to eliminate that from being a possibility?
This would be the way to go, that way you can isolate it for sure to one reg or the other. If it's the tank reg that's recharging slowly, get a rebuild kit from the manufacturer. If it's the mini-reg that's recharging slowly, an o-ring rebuild may solve the problem, but it's more likely the small piston main seal, in which case you need to swap out the small piston.
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Old 05-30-2015, 09:52 AM #10
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i originally thought it was the piston so i swapped it out with my d lite piston and it did the same thing. I'll swap the tank reg out to see if that's the issue. I miss my air america reg, i never had any issues with it!
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Old 05-30-2015, 10:02 PM #11
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If the D-Lite piston you installed was brand new, it might need some "breaking in" time. In the same way that the D-Lite valve stem often takes a few cases before it molds to the face of the valve body, the D-Lite small reg piston often takes a few cases before it molds to the sealing face of the large piston.

So, if your tank reg checks out okay, try putting a few thousand dryfires on the D-Lite piston and see if it starts regulating properly.
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The dlite was new. I'll dry fire it a few time to break it in. Thanks for the heads up on that. I happened to come across a burst disk that fit my old air america low pressure reg and swapped the bad one out with the good one aired it up. To double check I put the ninja reg in and set the pressure to 200psi and let it set for a few minutes. It went from 200psi to about 250psi. I swapped tanks out and put the old air america in, set it to 200psi and left it alone for the same amount of time and it still read 200psi. So I've come to the conclusion after 4 different (New within the year and one that is 2 months old) regs in, ninja regs are garbage. At least the ones I had. I'm going to redo the air america tank one more time to verify but I'm all most 100% positive it was the ninja regs.
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Yeah, definitely sounds like the Ninja tank reg was creeping. A rebuild kit/relube might help, but if you've got a reliable AA that works well, you can always stick with that too.
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Yeah, I know everyone loves ninja products, but I haven't had much luck with them.

I love my crossfire SS 4500 LP tanks. I can actually replace the reg seat by myself. No need to send it back to the manufacturer. All of the O-rings are easy to find too.
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To be honest I never like ninja. I was always an Air America fan. The only thing I didn't like was the gauge and burst disc were always a different thread then all the other gauges and burst discs. I can't find any of the burst discs anywhere, so if anyone knows where I can get some let me know! Thanks a head of time! I wish they were still around. I've always had great consistency with them. They don't make tank regs like they used to. I like the Evil adjustable reg to, I always thought they were cool. I never had a crossfire so I can't say much either way accept I never liked the giant gauge they used to have.
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