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Old 12-18-2009, 01:39 PM #1
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Kiper v McShay

I don't know about you all, but when I see Mel Kiper and Todd McShay speaking on ESPN...I feel there is a bit of animosity between both men, more-so on Kiper's part.

But that's just me, what do you guys think?
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Old 12-18-2009, 01:42 PM #2
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I think Mel Kiper is an ******* with a ****ed up hair cut.
Kiper s that way with everyone, his battles with John Clayton are the stuff of legend. Clayton FTW

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Old 12-18-2009, 02:01 PM #3
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They're both idiots. Anyone that thinks McCoy and Tebow are 1st round talent should not be listened to.
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Old 12-18-2009, 09:42 PM #4
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They're both idiots. Anyone that thinks McCoy and Tebow are 1st round talent should not be listened to.
Anyone who thinks they can guess what the 32 teams want to take first, and then who they think is the best at that given position is an idiot, yourself included.

That being said, I'm taking their word, having talked to many of the teams, over yours. It's not about who's the 32 best people, it's whose the most desired 32 people.
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Old 12-18-2009, 11:09 PM #5
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I remember Kiper saying "bla bla bla...Jay Cutler is the 4th best QB in the draft...bla bla bla...." 2 years later he was the only one with a starting job. These guys are hear to tell you nonsensical things that come true less and less each year. I mean, just go down the list of 1st round picks in the last 10 years and see how many had the impact you would expect from a guy drafted in the first round....its not nearly as many as youd think.
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Kiper is consistently the best at predicting where a player will go in the draft, bar-none.

At projecting talent, notsomuch
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Old 12-19-2009, 10:14 AM #8
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Kiper is consistently the best at predicting where a player will go in the draft, bar-none.

At projecting talent, notsomuch
Luckily, you just described his job.
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Old 12-19-2009, 05:42 PM #9
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Luckily, you just described his job.
Exactly.

Kiper is there to talk about where people will go in the draft, not who will have better numbers in 10 years.
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Old 12-19-2009, 05:48 PM #10
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Old 12-19-2009, 06:35 PM #11
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I <3 Kiper. McShay is a douche.
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Old 12-19-2009, 06:54 PM #12
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I remember Kiper saying "bla bla bla...Jay Cutler is the 4th best QB in the draft...bla bla bla...." 2 years later he was the only one with a starting job. These guys are hear to tell you nonsensical things that come true less and less each year. I mean, just go down the list of 1st round picks in the last 10 years and see how many had the impact you would expect from a guy drafted in the first round....its not nearly as many as youd think.
Vince Young is starting, and Jay Cutler is a scrub.
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Old 12-19-2009, 06:55 PM #13
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Said Matt Stafford would be a #1 pick while still in high school, that's purdy neat.
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Old 12-20-2009, 06:16 AM #14
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Said Matt Stafford would be a #1 pick while still in high school, that's purdy neat.
Could have swore he said that after this

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Old 12-21-2009, 10:43 AM #15
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Exactly.

Kiper is there to talk about where people will go in the draft, not who will have better numbers in 10 years.
right, but that's not really what he does. He doesn't just say that Matt Stafford will be the number one pick, which is fine, he then has to go on to tell you that he is the next coming of Peyton Manning and Dan Marino combined and will lead the lions to 12 straight superbowls. Rinse and repeat for every top 10 draft pick every year.
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Vince Young is starting, and Jay Cutler is a scrub.
the cutler ****er is far superior to vince young.
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Old 12-21-2009, 10:45 AM #17
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Anyone who thinks they can guess what the 32 teams want to take first, and then who they think is the best at that given position is an idiot, yourself included.

That being said, I'm taking their word, having talked to many of the teams, over yours. It's not about who's the 32 best people, it's whose the most desired 32 people.
so if someone tells you that Peyton Manning is the best QB in the league, that person is an idiot because nobody could possibly say who is the best at a position?

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Could have swore he said that after this

I didn't laugh until I saw the mobile homes, lmao.
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Old 12-21-2009, 11:05 AM #19
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I didn't laugh until I saw the mobile homes, lmao.
I don't think they're homes. It looks more like some campers. Maybe a concert or something?
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Old 12-21-2009, 11:10 AM #21
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I've never seen anyone actually live out of a camper.

I'm just saying I don't think he's in a trailer park, haha
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