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Old 12-15-2009, 11:46 AM #1
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Evolution

Since it seems difficult to get anyone to discuss evolution(ESPECIALLY those who oppose it). I have made this thread.
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Old 12-15-2009, 01:10 PM #2
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There really are only two types of people:

1. Those who understand evolution

2. Those who oppose it
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Old 12-15-2009, 01:12 PM #3
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Good point.

I'm content with being the creature I am and am totally against morphing into something else.

and all them little monkeys

.... better stay monkeys.
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Properly a discussion on evolution isn't a matter of philosophy or religion, it's a scientific discussion. Ideally we should petition for a ST: Science sub-forum for a proper place to discus the topic.
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Old 12-15-2009, 05:42 PM #5
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Old 12-15-2009, 06:12 PM #6
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Old 12-15-2009, 10:22 PM #8
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There really are only two types of people:

1. Those who understand evolution

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Haha, I will repeat that sometime.
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Properly a discussion on evolution isn't a matter of philosophy or religion, it's a scientific discussion. Ideally we should petition for a ST: Science sub-forum for a proper place to discus the topic.
Agreed.

However, there are clear and major philosophical and religious implications of the evolutionary model of life. A discussion of the scientific merits of evolution is certainly out of place here, but debate about the philosophical implications works. No?
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Agreed.

However, there are clear and major philosophical and religious implications of the evolutionary model of life. A discussion of the scientific merits of evolution is certainly out of place here, but debate about the philosophical implications works. No?
please explain.
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please explain.
He's mixing up abiogenesis and evolution through natural selection. Unless he thinks there's someone somewhere who seriously thinks the earth is only a few thousand years old.
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Old 12-16-2009, 09:22 AM #13
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I think what he is trying to say is that the hardcore science dose not belong in a philosophy forum, and that evolution can not be discussed without science because it is scientific in nature where the only thing it has to do with philosophy is that some religions contradict it.
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I don't see why it doesn't belong. Science started as a branch of philosophy. In fact one might make the argument that it is one of the most influential and practical forms of modern philosophy.
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Old 12-16-2009, 09:55 PM #15
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Well I was not saying I agreed with him. I think science is a part of philosophy as well.
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Has anyone seen the Ben Stein thing on showtime I think it is?
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Old 12-16-2009, 11:29 PM #17
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^Are you talking about the documentary he did, "Expelled"? I just saw the second half of that today on showtime or HBO or something.

There were a couple decent points but overall it was horribly done. Ben Stein really shot himself in the foot on that one.
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Old 12-17-2009, 07:28 AM #18
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what was it about, what position did he take?
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Science is still labeled as "natural philosophy" on the buildings of older colleges.
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For real.

The Bible has all the proof you need.

I hope you were not serious...the whole idea behind christianity is to have "faith" where there is no proof. If you believe in god and accept jesus as your lord and savior when their is no proof and you can never know %100 then according to christianity perhaps you will be accepted in to heaven...

And yes, evolution is a scientific discussion...I do not know why people think science is a belief system. Perhaps they should pull their head out of the bible and put it into a biology book....
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I hope you were not serious...the whole idea behind christianity is to have "faith" where there is no proof. If you believe in god and accept jesus as your lord and savior when their is no proof and you can never know %100 then according to christianity perhaps you will be accepted in to heaven...
The dodgy meant I was 100% serious.




I was making fun of people who try to back up their religious beliefs with proof when doing so defeats the whole purpose of having faith.
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