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Old 12-12-2009, 09:55 AM #1
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Question EPA Declares CO2 a Pollutant ?

What does this mean for the sport of paintball ?
Entry level marker packages most always include a CO tank.
If an HPA tank is now needed whats this going to do when little Johnnys mom
sees the pricetag of that Tippmann starter kit ?

I am of the opinion the sport must have new players on a consistant basis.
I dont use CO2 personally but I did when I first started playing, as do a huge percentage of new players.
Many places in the US and Canada HPA isnt even available.
(maybe Tom Kayes new invention will help this problem ? http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?t=247451 )

Maybe some lawyer types and people in the know can chime in on this CO2 thing.

http://www.newser.com/story/75603/ep...pollutant.html

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Old 12-12-2009, 11:42 AM #2
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Old 12-12-2009, 01:30 PM #4
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who cares anyways
co2 is slowly dying in pb anyways.
hpa tanks are sold for as much as a 20oz tank nd from all the fields/ stores i'm at, air is cheaper
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Old 12-12-2009, 03:29 PM #5
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hmmm. Maybe they will invent some kind of .50 cal solution for this too.
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they better not stop selling 12g for us stock class players
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Old 12-12-2009, 04:28 PM #8
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they better not stop selling 12g for us stock class players
It wouldn't be hard for manufacturers of 12g CO2 cartridges to switch over to filling them with nitrogen or HPA. If CO2 does end up going away, fear not.
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Old 12-12-2009, 04:33 PM #9
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It wouldn't be hard for manufacturers of 12g CO2 cartridges to switch over to filling them with nitrogen or HPA. If CO2 does end up going away, fear not.
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who cares anyways
co2 is slowly dying in pb anyways.
hpa tanks are sold for as much as a 20oz tank nd from all the fields/ stores i'm at, air is cheaper
i have never seen a standard size HPA tank at the same price as a 20oz CO2 tank. The cheapest ive seen a regular sized HPA tank is around $60 and thats a steely, and thats cutting it close when determining a normal sized HPA tank. A 20oz costs around $15 to $20 new.

CO2 is cheaper. Fields and stores charge by psi and size ratio. My 68/45 ninja tank costs about $5 to fill up where as my 20oz costs $3.50. And my 20oz gets more shots than my HPA tank.

fact is, the amount of CO2 users drastically outnumber HPA users. Just think about it. Not ALL players in paintball pay for the best kind of tank. It's like speedball vs woodsball: woodsballers outnumber speedballers in an unrealistic yet realistic way, and none of the speedballers notice until they actually observe. i tell you: observe how many people actually use CO2.
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Maybe then the EPA should just kill us all, since we all exhale CO2. Sweet.
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Maybe then the EPA should just kill us all, since we all exhale CO2. Sweet.
Beat me too it! damn.
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Think of it this way.... CO2 levels been rising over the last hundred years or so, and what else has exploded in the last hundred years? Our population. CO2 is the **** we breathe out. 7 billion people breathing is probably going to have a far greater effect than paintball tanks ever will.
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Old 12-30-2009, 02:56 PM #16
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and to think the media didn't have enough to ***** about paintball already, they are now complaining about our co2 tanks... Which in reality, does out number the percentage of compressed air users. Fatal Shock is right, and being a woodsballer myself, I see about 65% of players that go using co2, and 35% compressed air. And if 12 grams do stop being produced, unless they can find away to fill them with compressed air, than there goes a big portion of pistol users, as well as some stock class users, whom prefer to use strictly 12 grams. And personally i would prefer to stick to a 9oz co2 tank with my phantom, than one of those small compressed air tanks... reasons being are the following, compressed air tank = $60 new... I have not the care to fish around ebay for a cheaper, used one... 9oz CO2 new = about $10 dollars new. Shot count out of my phantom with the 13ci compressed air tank wil be about 300 or so shots on a full fill... compared to my 9oz CO2 tank on a full fill, I get about 900 shots, give or take a few dozen due to temperature, which isn't a big difference, considering the fact that I play/live in Miami, Fl... so in my opinion, I will rather stick to CO2. But i would guess it's all preference, at least until the EPA manages to screw us CO2 users over.
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Also since trees turn CO2 into air wouldn't we be helping the environment since we are encouraging trees to make air? lmao!
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Old 12-31-2009, 06:33 AM #19
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Ok they are not talking about removeing Co2 they are Taxing any greenhouse gasses which means you will be paying more for things like beer, soda, seltzer and yes even Co2 at you local paintball field yeah it sucks but thats what happens when people listen to myths about our earths temp rising( in reality if you look at thenewes as of late it seems like the planets switching spots with the frost and sow going further and further south every year.)
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i think i am more concerned about welders who use CO2 to weld with, well there goes our cars, and bridges, and buildings. haha and my job. boys it isn't going to happen
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