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Old 11-23-2009, 12:59 PM #43
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Actually the bible is the most scientifically accurate document ever. The bible has been proven correct over thousands of years while your science books have only been around a short while and get revised and disproven all the time. Science and history, our whole society even, is BASED ON the bible. Get your facts straight before you question god's word.

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Let's not forget that the Bible is also the most scientifically correct cookbook and gardening guide as well. Hell, who needs a TV guide when you've got the New Testament!
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Old 11-23-2009, 01:19 PM #44
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Actually the bible is the most scientifically accurate document ever. The bible has been proven correct over thousands of years while your science books have only been around a short while and get revised and disproven all the time. Science and history, our whole society even, is BASED ON the bible. Get your facts straight before you question god's word.

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while you tell me to get my facts straight, you fail to provide any facts to go along with your claim that "the bible has been proven correct over thousands of years". please enlighten me, i would very much like to learn these facts that say a virgin mother gave birth to a guy that would go on to perform miracles.
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Actually the bible is the most scientifically accurate document ever. The bible has been proven correct over thousands of years while your science books have only been around a short while and get revised and disproven all the time. Science and history, our whole society even, is BASED ON the bible. Get your facts straight before you question god's word.

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This absolutely has to be a troll.
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Old 11-23-2009, 01:32 PM #46
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i was thinking that for a little bit, but i truly think that he's serious.

edit: upon further review, you're right. he has to be a troll.
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Old 11-23-2009, 01:48 PM #47
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What's a troll?

And anyway, the bible is god's word and god doesn't lie. We already know that god is a perfect being and that humans are imperfect. Who are you going to believe?

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while you tell me to get my facts straight, you fail to provide any facts to go along with your claim that "the bible has been proven correct over thousands of years". please enlighten me, i would very much like to learn these facts that say a virgin mother gave birth to a guy that would go on to perform miracles.
Fact 1: God created the earth in 7 days and Adam was the first man.

Fact 2: The bible says that jesus performed miracles. This was proven when four separate accounts tell the same story and confirm the miracles!

Fact 3: The bible is the most accurate history book ever. It tells the accurate history of all the people of the earth. The fact that it's totally historically accurate should be proof enough for anyone that all the material enclosed within is factual.
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What's a troll?

And anyway, the bible is god's word and god doesn't lie. We already know that god is a perfect being and that humans are imperfect. Who are you going to believe?



Fact 1: God created the earth in 7 days and Adam was the first man.

Fact 2: The bible says that jesus performed miracles. This was proven when four separate accounts tell the same story and confirm the miracles!

Fact 3: The bible is the most accurate history book ever. It tells the accurate history of all the people of the earth. The fact that it's totally historically accurate should be proof enough for anyone that all the material enclosed within is factual.
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considering someone in your sig is telling you that you're an entertaining troll, i suspect that you know what it is.
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Old 11-23-2009, 02:16 PM #50
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Yea wave is very much an atheist he just trolls Christians on here.
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Old 11-23-2009, 02:55 PM #51
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Yea wave is very much an atheist he just trolls Christians on here.
no, he takes the christian side to show how ****ing stupid it is
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Yea wave is very much an atheist he just trolls Christians on here.
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Actually the bible is the most scientifically accurate document ever. The bible has been proven correct over thousands of years while your science books have only been around a short while and get revised and disproven all the time. Science and history, our whole society even, is BASED ON the bible. Get your facts straight before you question god's word.

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I never attack people based on ignorance but get real. What do you mean the bible has been proven correct over thousands of years? Can bushes burn and then be fine when the fire is gone? No. Can tablets fall out of the sky into someone's hands? No. Can someone be born without sperm? No. And don't argue the calcium theory, it hasn't been proved.

In regard to my highlighted point. Do you leave any room for argument? Believe it or not people are entitled to their own beliefs. I assume that since the Bible is "God's" word, you agree with stoning people to death if they're homosexuals? I mean, that's what the Bible says, and God wrote the Bible.

Edit-Wasn't aware you are a troll.
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lol, Kinda figured he was at that first post about being rewarded in the afterlife... But then again I kind of looked past that and saw sarcasm which caused a good LOL. The latter post were alright trolls though, second that sigy about being an entertaining troll
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yeah i do second that sig quote, you are entertaining and had me going for a bit.
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Odds are, they are just wack-jobs. However, if there was evidence that conflicted with evolution, scientists would embrace it and respect the challenge.
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Let's not forget that the Bible is also the most scientifically correct cookbook and gardening guide as well. Hell, who needs a TV guide when you've got the New Testament!
I would encourage the group of "intellectuals" that troll these forums to read up on some of the more prominent Christian scientists in this era. Robert Jastrow and Anthony Flew would be a good start. Yet I doubt that a single one of the "intellectuals" will bother reading something that they don't already agree with (continuing this cycle of ignorance).

Robert Jastrow - "For the scientist who has lived by his faith in the power of reason, the story ends like a bad dream. He has scaled the mountain of ignorance; he is about to conquer the highest peak; as he pulls himself over the final rock, he is greeted by a band of theologians who have been sitting there for centuries"

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The Bible is not a science book, and I doubt many claim it to be. But how does that make science an argument against religion? If anyone bothered to actually read the Bible AND their science book you would see that they don't contradict as much as people like to believe.
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The Bible is not a science book, and I doubt many claim it to be. But how does that make science an argument against religion? If anyone bothered to actually read the Bible AND their science book you would see that they don't contradict as much as people like to believe.
To be fair, I think that many more people use reason as an argument against religion, it just happens that the scientific method is an explicit mechanism of the principles of reason.

The level of contradiction between the Bible and science (or reason) is entirely dependent upon the level of flexibility that you afford to the interpretation of the Bible.

If the Bible must be read as the literal and inerrant word of an omnipotent, and eternal deity, the contradictions are staggering.

If the Bible can be read with differing levels of literalism, allegory, allowance of translation error, consideration of cultural relativism, etc., then most of the contradictions can be explained away.

The problem is this: the more flexibly you allow the interpretation of the Bible to become, the more and more meaningless its contents become.
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I would encourage the group of "intellectuals" that troll these forums to read up on some of the more prominent Christian scientists in this era. Robert Jastrow and Anthony Flew would be a good start. Yet I doubt that a single one of the "intellectuals" will bother reading something that they don't already agree with (continuing this cycle of ignorance).

Robert Jastrow - "For the scientist who has lived by his faith in the power of reason, the story ends like a bad dream. He has scaled the mountain of ignorance; he is about to conquer the highest peak; as he pulls himself over the final rock, he is greeted by a band of theologians who have been sitting there for centuries"

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The Bible is not a science book, and I doubt many claim it to be. But how does that make science an argument against religion? If anyone bothered to actually read the Bible AND their science book you would see that they don't contradict as much as people like to believe.
Why exactly did you quote me? Wave and my satirical comments weren't necessarily trying to disprove the Bible with science. And yes, there ARE plenty of Christians who attempt to claim the Bible's story as scientifically credible.
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The Bible is not a science book, and I doubt many claim it to be. But how does that make science an argument against religion? If anyone bothered to actually read the Bible AND their science book you would see that they don't contradict as much as people like to believe.
It doesn't contradict at all until idiots make the claim that the earth was created in 7 days and is only 6000 years old.
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It doesn't contradict at all until idiots make the claim that the earth was created in 7 days and is only 6000 years old.
Um... you mean that God idiot who claims it on page 1?

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