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Old 12-04-2009, 07:33 PM #232
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man I get to take my 1 of 10 baby out tmrw and shoot some rec ball and the old army base w abandoned housing lol cant wait to see how it does
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Old 12-04-2009, 09:35 PM #233
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man I get to take my 1 of 10 baby out tmrw and shoot some rec ball and the old army base w abandoned housing lol cant wait to see how it does
let us know how she does
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Old 12-05-2009, 08:53 PM #234
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okay took the marker out today....I must say I love the sound signature on this its like a well broken in DM sounds very muffled

Pros:
great weight, Feels comfortable, snappy and ball on ball consistent, easy programming modes, good on air

cons:
I would break 2-3 balls per pod fill, and the last few remaining balls would always break in the gun, LPR and HPR regs are not very adjustable, they dont adjust in very good increments, and usually adjust too dramatically by barely even turning the adjustment screw (maybe due to a really hard spring????)

I think as far as Creeds go they really need to work on the adjustment capabilities of these regs and make them more consistent and adjustable, as well work on the pressure sytem I should not be breaking balls especially any remaining few in a loader one balling it

my settings today:
taking into consideration it was a lil cold about low 50s not too cold tho... more wind chill mostly, and I was shooting Delta force paint from a tournament!

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eye sensitivity 7.....but had a few breaks so dropped it to between 5-6
Dwell 13 (for the weather conditions)
debounce 4.5
eye delay 4ms
LPR was out 1 turn out (towards barrel from flush)
HPR was stock settings on turns

My chrono was beween 265-275 I even lowered it to between 245-265 I would still have ocassional breaks, If this mystery can be solved the Creed is truly the perfect gun for me!!!

The Impulse 09 did not break paint nor did my Ego 8 so I dont know what the deal is?

any ideas on what can help would be nice
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Old 12-05-2009, 11:36 PM #235
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Hey Send me your Gun and Ill take care of it for you. I will set it up so you will not see these issues.. Is poss that you may have something that is not seating correctly in the marker.. I will do Pressure testing and adjust to full top performance.

What I have seen most from New Creed owners(not Saying that you are Jimmy) is that each time anyone adjust something they end up making another adjustment to counter something else. Countering what they have just done and in reality of the marker making it perform worse and making adjusting and dialing in the marker harder than it really is.. I just want you all to understand that making small adjustments one at a time not to over compensate with dwell and LPR pressures.. It seems that you may have just made a small adjustment that set the internal pressure to high causing it to break paint...
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Old 12-05-2009, 11:40 PM #236
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Remember Guys all Markers are not the same as in setting all pressures.. Each and every marker has it own internal tolerances. Making each and every marker different.. The settings we all give are a general starting point to adjust from. Starting from these points will get you to the point to fine tune.
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Old 12-06-2009, 01:34 AM #237
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awesome will do bro
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Old 12-06-2009, 04:46 PM #238
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Old 12-06-2009, 05:02 PM #239
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Old 12-06-2009, 05:48 PM #240
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anyone who is very knowledgeable in law and custody cases please PM me, I need help with this asap it is very important and could save someone from going down the wrong path because of ****ty parenting
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Old 12-06-2009, 06:06 PM #241
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sweet I have my buddy calling VP tmrw about making some Creed prototype triggers...If all goes well maybe they will make so many for us creed owners, show some support for the idea

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sweet I have my buddy calling VP tmrw about making some Creed prototype triggers...If all goes well maybe they will make so many for us creed owners, show some support for the idea

hope they do
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Old 12-06-2009, 08:20 PM #243
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anyone who is very knowledgeable in law and custody cases please PM me, I need help with this asap it is very important and could save someone from going down the wrong path because of ****ty parenting
Pm me, i will see what i can do.
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okay took the marker out today....I must say I love the sound signature on this its like a well broken in DM sounds very muffled

Pros:
great weight, Feels comfortable, snappy and ball on ball consistent, easy programming modes, good on air

cons:
I would break 2-3 balls per pod fill, and the last few remaining balls would always break in the gun, LPR and HPR regs are not very adjustable, they dont adjust in very good increments, and usually adjust too dramatically by barely even turning the adjustment screw (maybe due to a really hard spring????)

I think as far as Creeds go they really need to work on the adjustment capabilities of these regs and make them more consistent and adjustable, as well work on the pressure sytem I should not be breaking balls especially any remaining few in a loader one balling it

my settings today:
taking into consideration it was a lil cold about low 50s not too cold tho... more wind chill mostly, and I was shooting Delta force paint from a tournament!

Semi
eye sensitivity 7.....but had a few breaks so dropped it to between 5-6
Dwell 13 (for the weather conditions)
debounce 4.5
eye delay 4ms
LPR was out 1 turn out (towards barrel from flush)
HPR was stock settings on turns

My chrono was beween 265-275 I even lowered it to between 245-265 I would still have ocassional breaks, If this mystery can be solved the Creed is truly the perfect gun for me!!!

The Impulse 09 did not break paint nor did my Ego 8 so I dont know what the deal is?

any ideas on what can help would be nice
Your LPR sounds a bit low to me. At least with the experience I have on my gun it needs to be flush minimum. There just isnt a lot of volume in the LPR system so for consistent cycling you need to run it higher rather than lower or you may break paint.

You may also want to check your detents. The springs are very tricky to put into the gun and they may be buckled. If they are your detents may retract, but not fully which can also cause problems. It took me about 4 tries to get mine in perfectly lol. From the sound of you having problems one balling, this may be an issue. I always test my detents by pushing them back fully with a finger nail, until my nail is flush on the metal of the breech. If they don't go that far back consistently, then you have a problem.

Last but not least, that high operating pressure is murder on cold paint. The air just hits too hard too fast. They need to get the low pressure poppets out quick. You can compensate for this by overboring in most cases. The ego and impy both have lower pressures so that could be the reason. My creed ran perfectly all last weekend with no breaks at a tournament(15bps ramp) but it was indoor and heated.
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Old 12-06-2009, 11:50 PM #245
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yeah I am guessing heat makes a major differance, ill check the detents I dont like how the eye covers align w the springs it does make it a lil difficult cause they dont leave alot of play where the spring fits in the eye covers knotch.....ill try to run the lpr flush and see how it shoots tmrw

any idea when these LP poppits are supposed to come out?
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Old 12-07-2009, 01:38 PM #246
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The VP triggers sound legit, on getting on that. I had talked to acid customs on getting a carbon fiber one made and he said he just needed one to model after. Now that I have an extra trigger I can send him one and see how that goes.

I received me 1/10 creed in the mail about a week ago and have been playing with it this week. I'm in love with it as is. I didn't mess with any settings when I took it out of the box and I haven't broken a ball yet. It chronos between 279 and 291 and shoots butta. Barrel rise still does occur, but its nothing that I can't get used to with a firmer grip.

phantomette - I would like to see what goes down with the VP triggers and I'll do the same w/ acid customs.

As far as aftermarket parts go, It would be hard to say if companies would jump on it. From my experience that gun is superb from the start. I haven't had problems with the components at all, except for the v1 that I had bought originally. If people want a new reg, I don't see that happening because of the design. A whole new set-up would have to be made by other companies and I just think the market for it is too small at this point.

I think that Vanguard has made a truly exceptional gun here. It's a great design and can't wait to see what comes in the future. They are a great company with unmatched customer service and quality care. They always want the optimal performance for their consumers and will go above and beyond to get the job done.

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Old 12-07-2009, 02:22 PM #247
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Old 12-08-2009, 10:57 AM #248
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oh Phantom you have a fellow blood splash creed owner now
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