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Old 10-08-2009, 06:56 PM #1
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no one is seeing a point to .50 cal

The point is WIPEING. The is a few dishonest peaple out there. Say a noob start to play and he has a .50 cal marker and shoots and hits and the player that he hit wipes. Now you have the noob mad and wanting to sell and getting out of the sport. This is the way i see it
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Old 10-08-2009, 06:57 PM #2
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There aren't 1000000x other threads on this, that have pointed this out already.
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The point is WIPEING. The is a few dishonest peaple out there. Say a noob start to play and he has a .50 cal marker and shoots and hits and the player that he hit wipes. Now you have the noob mad and wanting to sell and getting out of the sport. This is the way i see it
you havent seen the size of the .50 marks either...
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The point is WIPEING. The is a few dishonest peaple out there. Say a noob start to play and he has a .50 cal marker and shoots and hits and the player that he hit wipes. Now you have the noob mad and wanting to sell and getting out of the sport. This is the way i see it
This happens with .68 already, so what's the difference?

If you're talking about a game with noobs playing, at most fields you're also probably talking about a game with 20+ players per team and 1, maybe two refs. Under these conditions, you could use 2.0 caliber paintballs and it would still be easy as hell to wipe. It's pretty much the honor system or nothing.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LePFytcdYfw
pay attention to the part where he says there is a very small difference between the size of a hit caused by a .68 cal paintball and a .50 cal paintball.
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Old 10-08-2009, 10:23 PM #6
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pay attention to the part where he says there is a very small difference between the size of a hit caused by a .68 cal paintball and a .50 cal paintball.
Or just watch this video which actually shows it.

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Old 10-08-2009, 10:35 PM #7
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The Point IS More money from The companys. They dont care what we think. They only care about paying the bills...

SAW it at cup still on the wall about few thinks ill see.
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Or just watch this video which actually shows it.
Uh, you mean the video that confirms the sizable difference?
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Old 10-08-2009, 10:38 PM #9
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The Point IS More money from The companys. They dont care what we think. They only care about paying the bills. I wont buy any .50 gear. If they stop making .68 Then I'm done.
Give me one reason right now why paintball companies making money is a bad thing.
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Old 10-08-2009, 10:41 PM #10
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Or just watch this video which actually shows it.

all they did was bore match and used over sized barrels on the .68s i can shoot 20 feet away with my nxt, bore matched if i don't move it almost ball on ball
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Give me one reason right now why paintball companies making money is a bad thing.
The point isn't making money. It's about HOW they make money. This .50 caliber deal looks a lot like when manufactures each had to have their own barrel thread. In the end it didn't do anybody any good.
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The point isn't making money. It's about HOW they make money. This .50 caliber deal looks a lot like when manufactures each had to have their own barrel thread. In the end it didn't do anybody any good.
There are talks that companies will make a universal .50 barrel thread. So please use a different example.
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There are talks that companies will make a universal .50 barrel thread. So please use a different example.
Are you kidding me?! You asked for a reason why companies making money is a bad thing. First, that's flawed since nobody is directly saying that them making money is a bad thing. It's implied that the method of said profit can be in question. So I gave you a proven example in history, one still plagues us today, of why the drive for profit can end up negatively for the consumer. It's no wonder there's talk of a universal barrel thread, but the damage has already been done.
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Old 10-08-2009, 11:11 PM #14
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Give me one reason right now why paintball companies making money is a bad thing.
How about this one. .50 cal is smaller and more accurate. So in order for people and teams to stay competitive they have to upgrade forcing them to buy all new gear. Not a good idea when the job market is non-existent and people don't have money. If pb manufacturers want to do this then they should wait till the markets bounce back and become more financially stable so it doesn't affect people as much.
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How about this one. .50 cal is smaller and more accurate. So in order for people and teams to stay competitive they have to upgrade forcing them to buy all new gear. Not a good idea when the job market is non-existent and people don't have money. If pb manufacturers want to do this then they should wait till the markets bounce back and become more financially stable so it doesn't affect people as much.
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They should make .69 caliber if they must to change it. Bigger is better.

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50 cal hits wont count

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Old 10-08-2009, 11:27 PM #18
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Are you kidding me?! You asked for a reason why companies making money is a bad thing. First, that's flawed since nobody is directly saying that them making money is a bad thing. It's implied that the method of said profit can be in question. So I gave you a proven example in history, one still plagues us today, of why the drive for profit can end up negatively for the consumer. It's no wonder there's talk of a universal barrel thread, but the damage has already been done.
Actually, I can quote hundreds of posts saying them (companies) making money is a bad thing. None of of their posts go beyond that statement.

If my company was in a slump, and the entire market is in a slump, I need a plan to bring in income. I need a plan to bring in profits. This entire conversion is that plan, its potential for a solution is all there. You fail to read up on the motives they have on producing the new ball. Yes it's for profits, yes they want your money, yes they will make a lot of it, and I'm sitting here telling you HOW they will make their profits is justified according to the horrible market we're in right now. When have you seen a paint company acknowledge the fact that they KNOW paint prices are too high? When have you seen a paint company state they will do something about that exact problem? This makes me think that even though they are driving for profits; they are acknowledging a current problem, and have plans to help rectify the problem. I don't think waiting for us to get out of this recession is the solution. That's not going to lower my weekly costs as a player even when the recession is over. If we do nothing, paintball is only going to keep declining. If we do something, we have a chance to jump start the entire sport/industry.
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How about this one. .50 cal is smaller and more accurate. So in order for people and teams to stay competitive they have to upgrade forcing them to buy all new gear. Not a good idea when the job market is non-existent and people don't have money. If pb manufacturers want to do this then they should wait till the markets bounce back and become more financially stable so it doesn't affect people as much.
OMG actually one if the firsts staements that i actually completely agree with AND that has sense . to you.
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How about this one. .50 cal is smaller and more accurate. So in order for people and teams to stay competitive they have to upgrade forcing them to buy all new gear. Not a good idea when the job market is non-existent and people don't have money. If pb manufacturers want to do this then they should wait till the markets bounce back and become more financially stable so it doesn't affect people as much.
You could say that about any piece of gear though, the people with the 2010 guns have an advantage over the others that dont. For example thats like saying because dxl released the luxe or dye released the nt or eclipse released the 2010 sl model they forced everyone to buy one so they could compete on the same level as people who can afford to buy them.
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How about this one. .50 cal is smaller and more accurate. So in order for people and teams to stay competitive they have to upgrade forcing them to buy all new gear. Not a good idea when the job market is non-existent and people don't have money. If pb manufacturers want to do this then they should wait till the markets bounce back and become more financially stable so it doesn't affect people as much.
So when electronic guns came around they should have banned them because to be competitive you have to buy the electronic gun?

The wipe size will still be very clear and easy to see - it will not be any easier to wipe unless your hand is smaller then the splatter of a .68 ball(which it's not). They both take one swipe of the hand.
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