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Old 09-30-2009, 06:56 PM #1
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Do you want your LUXE to get better efficiency?

What is the Efficiency Rod aka E.F.Rod?

After shooting my LUXE and not quite getting the efficiency I would like, I looked into what it would take to modify the shot chamber. On any spool valve gun, reducing the shot chamber and raising the HPR pressure will usually give you a boost in efficiency. There have been other ways to do this but seeing how the bolt guide on the LUXE is hollow, I figured filling this void would produce a smaller chamber of air and increase efficiency. What I came up with is a precision milled rod that fits inside the bolt guide. All you do is unscrew your bolt guide, slip the Efficiency Rod into your bolt guide and reassemble your bolt. Its that simple. Once finished, just adjust your HPR to the desired fps (usually about 1 full turn) and watch your shots per tank increase. If there is any unwanted kick, adjust your manifold screw to remove it.

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Ive had questions regarding the difference between the delrin and the CF. Other than material there is no performance differences.



TeamChaos Efficiency vid with a 68-4500 filled to 3k





Here is a pic of it in my LUXE bolt guide.



The white is Delrin and the black is Carbon Fiber.

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Old 09-30-2009, 06:57 PM #2
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Old 09-30-2009, 06:57 PM #3
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will this increase kick/sound and have you tested the difference
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Old 09-30-2009, 06:59 PM #4
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The sound of your gun will increase very slightly. There should be no extra kick and if there is you can remove the kick with the manifold screw.

I have also found with the increased hpr pressure that it has helped with fsdo since the noid is getting a slightly higher pressure.
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Old 09-30-2009, 07:02 PM #5
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how much for the carbon fiber and how much for the derlin?
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Old 09-30-2009, 07:06 PM #6
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is there a difference in performance between the delrin and carbon???

i will buy both..
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Old 09-30-2009, 07:18 PM #7
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Ragin Cajun: You need to put up a video/pics on how to put it in. I know how, but some of them have no clue. And maybe a test video on your 13 pod claim?

13 pods at what velocity?
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Old 09-30-2009, 07:23 PM #8
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There is no difference in performance other than the CF looks nicer, matches the internals and is slightly lighter.
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Old 09-30-2009, 07:24 PM #9
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Ragin Cajun: You need to put up a video/pics on how to put it in. I know how, but some of them have no clue. And maybe a test video on your 13 pod claim?

13 pods at what velocity?
I can try and get a video up this weekend. Orionz also tested these and his numbers were very good also.

I was shooting at 290fps.
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Old 09-30-2009, 07:27 PM #10
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I can try and get a video up this weekend. Orionz also tested these and his numbers were very good also.

I was shooting at 290fps.
Yeah a video will be good. Everyone are skeptics here, just like how I was with the NDZ can until I tested one. 13 pods at 290FPS, sign me up man!

Orionz, post your results if you can.
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Old 09-30-2009, 08:14 PM #11
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alright...
how much is it
do you have any statistics to support your "rod"? like charts and efficiency tests? (like you shooting as much paint as you can?)
and what in the hell is a ragin cajun =)
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Old 09-30-2009, 08:15 PM #12
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Where the hell have you been?
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Old 09-30-2009, 08:16 PM #13
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haha, im up at school. Ive been super busy... and idk what happened to my avatar...
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Old 09-30-2009, 08:29 PM #14
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Cajun, can you pm me with prices on the two? Also, that video would be key. I tried to pm you but it won't let me for some reason...
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Old 09-30-2009, 08:48 PM #15
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A videos of one with and without the rod might be cool. Just to see the difference in sound signature.
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Old 09-30-2009, 08:57 PM #16
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Video of installing it?
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Old 09-30-2009, 08:58 PM #17
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he explained it goes in the bolt stem you just slide it in
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Old 09-30-2009, 09:04 PM #18
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Video of installing it?
If you regularly lube your luxe this is as easy as it gets.
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PM me a price and availability. I cant see this thing being more than $10....but I may be wrong.
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