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Old 01-04-2010, 08:35 PM #1
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Respected "Photographer" in ST:P is fake...

I just discovered something interesting the other day, did a little more research on it, and have come to believe that I have enough evidence to prove that GWO Balor is a fake. He's been stealing pictures off of a professional photographers flickr based out of Glasgow, Scotland.

The photographer is Tommy Ga-Ken Wan. Every picture GWO Balor has posted has come from this flickr account. He's never led us to any external links to more of his "award winning" photography which sketched me out at first. Yesterday I was bored and started browsing through my Flickr contacts. TGKW randomly commented on a picture I posted a few years ago, I looked at his profile in return, and out of random chance, friended him on flickr. I've always liked his shots and went a little more in depth in his flickr yesterday and realized I'd seen a lot of these shots before... from a fellow PBN member. I PM'd GWO Balor about this and his response was:

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Hey,

I've never seen you post any links to more of your photography here but always like seeing your work. I was bored and was browsing through my Flickr Contacts and was wondering if [/url=http://www.flickr.com/photos/tgkw/]this[/url] is your flickr? I remember a lot of those shots because you posted them here. If it is you that's pretty cool how I randomly found you on flickr awhile ago and am a member here as well haha.

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Is indeed, although I rarely use flickr anymore
I thought this response was a bit odd because out of all my contacts, TGKW updates his Flickr the most, almost to an annoying extent. That led me to view GWO Balors posts and threads he's started on PBN.

Here's some evidence I've gathered that I find odd...
- His posts seem immature compared to what TGKW posts on his Flickr.
- He created a thread asking advice to name his new kitten he bought for a girlfriend. One look at TGKW's flickr and you can tell that the photographer is openly gay.
- Tommy Shoots Nikon, GWO Balor I believe said he shoots a 5d?
- The final thing which proves he's a fake is the picture he posted in an OSST Picture thread, which shows he's white.

GWO Balor:


Tommy Ga-Ken Wan


I talked to Jimmy to get another opinion and he agrees as well. I feel like you guys should interpret this for yourselves. Even though he messaged me straight up saying it is him, evidence shows otherwise...
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Old 01-04-2010, 08:38 PM #2
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Yeah I think we have been trolled...pretty damn well...GWO do you have any explanation for this?
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Old 01-04-2010, 08:40 PM #3
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Wow. What a douchebag.
edit: we've been trolled hardcore
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Old 01-04-2010, 08:40 PM #4
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Wow...if this is true, then gg GWO...Troll Hard: The GWO Story
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Old 01-04-2010, 08:42 PM #5
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Old 01-04-2010, 08:45 PM #6
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Old 01-04-2010, 08:46 PM #7
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Old 01-04-2010, 08:46 PM #8
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He took all the ones that weren't watermarked. scumbag.
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Didn't he watermark a few a little while ago with his own name on them?

Yea this is like months worth of trolling. Debating whether to tell the real photographer? I don't think there is really anything he could do even if he did know though?
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Wow, what a ****ing asshat. I'd tell the real photographer that he's being ripped-off and imitated. This is bull****.
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Old 01-04-2010, 08:50 PM #12
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i thought he seemed fishy but never really cared enough to go that deep. nice detective work
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i thought he seemed fishy but never really cared enough to go that deep. nice detective work
Seriously, we should get you a "ST Detective" badge .
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Wow, that guy should really get a life.
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anyone know if he posts on any other sites? If he is just do it here i don't see much reason to tell the real photographer, but if he is doing it elsewhere i could see reason in doing it.
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Anyone that posts on POTN see anything? I don't see why someone would go to all that trouble to troll...I mean, PbN is one thing...but still.
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Old 01-04-2010, 08:58 PM #18
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Yea that's what I was thinking. If he is watermarking those pictures and posting them elsewhere I definitely will tell though.
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His photos aren't coming from just 1 source either

2nd to last photo in this post http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.p...4#post63098304

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Haha wow, well there is nothing we can really do is just admit we were trolled and tell the original photographers that their work is being claimed by random people....what a pitty. I'd hate to have someone else wrongfully claim my work as theirs....
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too bad the TinEye database is small and im not getting hits for most of what he has posted.
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