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Old 09-14-2009, 06:11 PM #43
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does anyone know how much this kit is going to cost?
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Old 09-14-2009, 06:25 PM #44
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No. Your guess is as good as ours.

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Old 09-14-2009, 06:45 PM #45
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so the kit will be released late this week...what exactly will it do beside making the geo compatible with reballs? is any one who has tried the kit aloud to talk about it before we spend our cash on it??
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Old 09-14-2009, 07:15 PM #46
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It's going to come with a tripod and remote control so you can set it up and then go run and hit people with your barrel swab. They won't see it coming.
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Old 09-14-2009, 08:07 PM #47
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so the kit will be released late this week...what exactly will it do beside making the geo compatible with reballs? is any one who has tried the kit aloud to talk about it before we spend our cash on it??
See page 1.....thats about all we know. Nicky "Tease" was gracious enough to clarify a few points for us, but that is all we have gotten out of them so far. Those around here lucky enough to get to test them are keeping their heads down....other than to say WE WILL LOVE IT. So coming from the people it has, I think it will be a must have.

Think of it this way......would PE not release a new model, and only release a so-so kit to fix the reball issue and rely on that to carry their marker until an SL or a 2011 model????

I think not. Them boys got a few more rocks in their heads than that!

Maybe they will grace us with a "teaser" or 2 this week like they are doing for the Ego side.......?


Come on NICKYT....WHERE'S OUR TEASER? Show us some love brah!
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Old 09-14-2009, 08:09 PM #48
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a teaser would be cool lol
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Old 09-14-2009, 09:30 PM #49
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a teaser would be cool lol
Just pretend this has to do with the "ST" kit:


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Old 09-14-2009, 09:40 PM #50
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Oh yeah, I can see a bolt and a can!!!!!

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Old 09-14-2009, 10:02 PM #51
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Just pretend this has to do with the "ST" kit:

i've already done that lol
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Old 09-14-2009, 11:25 PM #52
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Anyone else see the Dye NT stuff? 1500-1700 shots on a 68/4500, but dear lord did you see how many o-rings the engine has??????

I will be jealous if they get those kind of numbers and we don't.

Come on PE suprise us!

I feel like the kind at Christmas with no present to open....!
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Old 09-14-2009, 11:45 PM #53
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Anyone else see the Dye NT stuff? 1500-1700 shots on a 68/4500, but dear lord did you see how many o-rings the engine has??????

I will be jealous if they get those kind of numbers and we don't.

Come on PE suprise us!

I feel like the kind at Christmas with no present to open....!
I was thinking the same thing....but do you really think they can get 1700 shots out of that marker?
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Old 09-15-2009, 04:24 AM #54
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[quote=Brules;61992151]Come on PE suprise us!QUOTE]

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Old 09-15-2009, 05:11 AM #55
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PE has our backs, granted it's their first closed bolt marker(not counting the eblade cockers) they've done a great job so far. I'm more impressed with the GEO than my 08 ego, closer, and DM6 that i've had. Yes they are older guns but for PE to come out of the box and be like HERE'S A CLOSED BOLT GUN, HAVE FUN! It was an amazing piece of technology. This kit coming out will more than likely be more than sufficient to meet the players needs and hold us over until the release of the next GEO.
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Old 09-15-2009, 08:42 AM #56
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"Enclosed" bolt marker, rather than closed bolt marker - the Geo still shoots from an open bolt, unlike the Autococker.

The cycle starts with the bolt in the rearward position with a ball in the breech, and the bolt pushes the ball in to the barrel and then fires it in one motion when you pull the trigger. The cycle is then completed when the bolt opens again and a ball drops in to the breech.

With a closed bolt marker, the cycle starts with a ball loaded in the barrel and the bolt in the forward position. The marker fires, the bolt opens, a ball drops in to the breech, and then the bolt closes again. At that point, the cycle is complete and the marker is ready to fire again.
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Old 09-15-2009, 08:48 AM #57
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HERE'S A CLOSED BOLT GUN, HAVE FUN!
its open bolt, the bolt is in the back position when its at rest where as a autocockers bolt is always forward when its at rest only opening to load a ball making it a closed bolt system. so a better way to put it is heres a spool valve gun have fun.
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Old 09-15-2009, 09:51 AM #58
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got it, uziel knew what i was getting at ENCLOSED.
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Old 09-15-2009, 11:31 AM #59
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OK, bad news guys.

It's going to be next week before the GST kits come in and we can start to ship.

Big BIG Sorry for the false start. Slight communication error, and all that.

I am going to try and get a video put together in the next week-or-so very similar to the Cure3 bolt video, that is like an infomercial. It will give you all an idea of what the kit does, and why it does it.

Just to clarify a few points:
1) Efficiency. We are not going to quote numbers again, certainly not on this product. What we have found over the last 12 months is there are just too many variables (admittedly some of those are in our product, but A LOT are outside our control) to reliably say that with any barrel, any paint, any air system, and day, in any weather, you will get X number of shots. What the GST kit will do is definitely bring up the efficiency of the guys whoa re getting REALLY bad efficiency in a big way. I'll not get into how it does it here, you'll have to wait on the video. Results from beta testers are pointing that the kits are giving very consistent results from gun-to-gun as far as efficiency, but don't expect this one kit to suddenly give every single player 1700+ shots. That, it will not do.
2) This kit is not designed to “carry” the Geo until the next release. As I have publicly said before, we are working on a Gen2 Geo now, but it is not going to be released in this Extravaganza/World Cup release window. We want to move away from annual release, and this is our first, gentle, step. That does NOT mean you will have to wait for “a 2011 Geo” as there will be no such thing as a 2011 Geo. What is exciting, is that the Geo is a very versatile platform. The system is tailor-made for having new drop-in engines. But don’t just expect the Gen2 Geo to be a Geo with a GST kit. That would make no sense.
3) The feedback from beta testers have been 100% positive on this upgrade as far as 2 things go. Kick and sound. Really it has to be experienced to be understood how effective the changes have been at making the gun feel so smooth and so quiet. I am sure you are all going to be impressed with the changes. The other feedback that has been significant is how much paint testers have been shooting, of all kinds of old, mis-shapen, grotty paint, as well as uber-fragile tourney paint, with so few ball breaks. In fact some beta testers have shot several tens of thousands of paint with zero breaks.
4) Beta testers, please feel free to comment on your findings of the parts I have supplied you all. I will keep an eye on this and hope that I can answer any more questions for you as they may arise.

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Old 09-15-2009, 11:57 AM #60
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What I want to know is how do I become a Beta Tester!!!!!!....LOL..

Great info Jack - PE at it's finest!..(guess that's why I own 3 09 markers! LOL!)..
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Old 09-15-2009, 12:00 PM #61
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Woot I finally get to say something about the bolt.

-I have shot cases and cases of paint from the worst paint to top of the line most brittle paint and not one single break.
-It does change the sound signature a little bit
-Feels a lot smoother with this
-efficiency was improved from me, but don't expect to get huge results.
-I found it to be a tad bit more stable over a chrono(might have been just lucky)
-Great Product!
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Old 09-15-2009, 12:14 PM #62
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Woot I finally get to say something about the bolt.

-I have shot cases and cases of paint from the worst paint to top of the line most brittle paint and not one single break.
-It does change the sound signature a little bit
-Feels a lot smoother with this
-efficiency was improved from me, but don't expect to get huge results.
-I found it to be a tad bit more stable over a chrono(might have been just lucky)
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What kind of numbers were u getting and what size tank?
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Old 09-15-2009, 12:42 PM #63
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What kind of numbers were u getting and what size tank?
I couldn't really give you exact numbers since I play snake so I don't end up going through a whole tank anyways.
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