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Old 09-14-2009, 10:06 AM #22
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Ok so now that the word is out and pretty much confirmed by Jack Wood: No 2010 Geo at cup, my expectations for this ST kit are even higher. With no new model, the ST kit will need to carry the Geo on it's tiny little shoulders!!!!!

I hate waiting!
That is an understatement. This makes the release of the ST kit much more exciting. I'm really looking forward to the improvements, even though I love the package as it is now. In fact, I love it so much I purchased another one last night. This means I'll now be purchasing two ST kits

Brules, make Friday come sooner!
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Old 09-14-2009, 10:19 AM #23
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So what i'm wondering is since there is no new Geo coming out at Cup will the Geo retain its value a little better than it has been??? I too am very excited for this new bolt kit to arrive and will hopefully have one on order the day of or shortly after.
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Old 09-14-2009, 11:32 AM #25
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So what i'm wondering is since there is no new Geo coming out at Cup will the Geo retain its value a little better than it has been??? I too am very excited for this new bolt kit to arrive and will hopefully have one on order the day of or shortly after.
I think what will drive that is how the new kit makes the Geo perform.....if the Geo can not develope a serious edge over the DM/Luxe in some fashion it will never take market share away and be in great demand which will allow it to hold it's value.

From what I have heard about the SL91 that people have shot, they said it was smoother and quieter than the other Geo's. I have to think this ST kit is the SL parts that have been further refined and made even better.

So with no 2010 Geo, PE is betting the house on this kit......and they rarely if ever come up the loser!
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Old 09-14-2009, 12:10 PM #26
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I really hope the ST kit allows for a more noticeable edge over the DM's/luxes....while I personally haven't shot a luxe, I absolutely love the Geo compared to the DM's I've shot. I'm fairly excited about this kit
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Old 09-14-2009, 01:45 PM #27
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The ST kit is not the SL internals.

And if you already "absolutely love" the GEO over the DMs, then why does there need to be a HUGE new noticable edge from this kit??

You can be sure that the kit will be a noticable improvement and have some REALLY big benefits over the original internals...but that is already on top of a platform that is hands down better than the other spool valves on the market. In the original (post GR-2) GEO, you already have the lightest and most user friendly spool valve marker on the planet (no pun intended). So I don't think they are, or need to, "bet the house" on a kit that refines the original, better-than-all-others platform.

But trust me when I say, you WILL want this kit!
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Old 09-14-2009, 02:03 PM #28
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I am buying it the second it comes out......all I am saying is that the perception of most spool users is that the Geo is not better as to most people, noise signature/"kick"/efficiency are all they care about. However misguided that may be, it is the reality. DM's are tremendous markers.....until it goes down hahaha!

To not release a 2010 Geo and instead realease a kit is a pretty big step if you ask me.....(well needed), BUT it is risky. When everyone at cup sees a new Ego and no new Geo, you can bet the PE haters will be beating the drums saying the Geo is going away.....heck, there is already a thread in here with that very title.

So yeah, it is a prety big gamble to break the cycle you (PE) helped start, and they obviously didn't want to begin with the Ego.....

Someone time warp us a week into the future.....this waiting SUCKS!
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Old 09-14-2009, 02:29 PM #29
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Because I'd like the matrix fellows to see the light as well As Brules mentioned the common conception is that the Geo isn't better, but perhaps something like the ST kit will stir up more interest so that people will be more likely to try one out.
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Old 09-14-2009, 03:08 PM #30
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i dont care if other people like my marker, or the type of marker i use.... because in the end, they are the ones who are talking about it in the deadbox!
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Old 09-14-2009, 04:08 PM #31
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I do, more people buying the Geo is a good thing. We want them to sell as many as possible to fund further developement of the line.

Without interest and strong sales, do you think they would continue the line?
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Old 09-14-2009, 04:12 PM #32
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i dont care if other people like my marker, or the type of marker i use.... because in the end, they are the ones who are talking about it in the deadbox!
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Old 09-14-2009, 04:34 PM #33
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Brules you are the man!!!!! ok Nicky Patron Really???? The DoN J. is so much better in my humble alcoholic opinion!!!!!!! Neway I cant wait ? tho if not shooting reballs should I get the up grade????? Brules and Nicky, your opinions will def. guide me thanks in advance....
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Old 09-14-2009, 04:41 PM #34
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So yeah, it is a prety big gamble to break the cycle you (PE) helped start, and they obviously didn't want to begin with the Ego.....
I think the 18 month cycle that Canon uses for cameras works very well. I'd even be fine if it was longer. 1 year is just too quick from a design standpoint.

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Old 09-14-2009, 04:50 PM #35
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I do, more people buying the Geo is a good thing. We want them to sell as many as possible to fund further developement of the line.

Without interest and strong sales, do you think they would continue the line?
exactly.
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Old 09-14-2009, 05:22 PM #36
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I liken it to the Zick/cure parts for the Ego.....are they necasarry? No.....are they better than what you currently have? Yes.

If you are on the fence, just wait a wee bit longer and see what the people who already have it say when their NDA is lifted and then see what smart people like Xluben/Uziel/96LS and others say. Others like me will pipe in as well.
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Old 09-14-2009, 05:53 PM #37
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I don't care to know about your recreational habits, Brules. Young children may read this let's keep it clean..... . . . . . ... .. .. .
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hahaha nice!

Well Nicky Tease was right, Monday hath come and gone....maybe tomorrow!
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It's too bad....I was looking forward to something new today!
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Old 09-14-2009, 06:34 PM #42
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Well today starts next week Nicky! You almost promised.
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