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Old 09-24-2003, 06:37 PM #1
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***UPDATED*** The "VS" Thread

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Pimp vs. Matrix

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Omen vs. Matrix

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Old 11-17-2003, 01:23 PM #2
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Re: The "VS" Thread; Look here before posting a "Vs." threads!!!

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If you've been given a link by me to visit this thread, then now you're probably going to ask yourself "Why is my thread closed? I'm just curious on what marker to get, I can't make up my mind." Well here is why. Because honestly nobody here can make the choice for you.
That and some forum members are complaining about all the "Marker vs Marker" threads that pop up by the handful every day. So we're on them like a hobo on a ham sandwich. But since I don't like to just close and ignore, I'm now going to help you on what marker to choose. So think of this as the most informational post you could have hoped for and your question will be answered.

PERSONAL PREFERENCE!!! You might be thinking that this answer isn't good enough for you, there's gotta be more to it than that….. No! There isn't!

It all seriously comes down to the one that feels better in your hand. The one you like the balance of better. Or if you have used them and like the feel of both, then go for style. Go for budget. If you like both then you won't be disappointed either way. So basically…… buy the cheaper one!

Here is the deal. Every single marker that any and all manufacturers produce is made to perform one single task. To shoot a little burst of air and project a paintball out of a barrel. That is it. What does that mean? It means every single marker you can imagine has an air burst behind the paintball and that makes it move forward. That the only REAL difference is how the internal mechanics of said marker produces this burst of air. It might be from a hammer opening a valve mechanically, it might be through electronics determining how long a pneumatic-ram opens the valve, it might be bolt less, it might be just a dump-valve. But no matter how it is done,they all do the same thing. Air burst behind paintball to shoot it down a barrel. That is it. Each and every single marker.

When you compare Rate of Fire…. Markers today have such insane numbers that this isn't even a factor any more. Every marker out there besides some pumps (but yes, even some pumps) can outshoot the average agitating hopper. So don't even worry about "how fast can this shoot as compared to my other choice?" Because they all can rip, don't even break a sweat pondering over this. Ignore rate of fire, fageddaboutit, drop this topic from your thought process!

"But what's more accurate, the first marker choice or the second one, or the fifth one?" As you can tell from previously, all markers do the same thing. The biggest determining factor for your accuracy is a good barrel system. With a properly fitted barrel to the paint you use, if it's of course a quality barrel, your accuracy on the Angel will be the same to that as a Matrix. The accuracy of an Impulse the same as an Intimidator. The accuracy of an Autococker the same as a Tippmann or Spyder! Yes, that's right. I said cocker accuracy same as Tippmann or even a Spyder. Tom Kaye and Bud Orr themselves have stated that paint to barrel match equate to 90% of velocity fluctuation. Meaning get top end quality fresh paint and a banging barrel system…. .you're going to be shootin darts!
It's just that "high-end" markers like Cockers and Matrices are considered more consistent than "low-end" markers like Tippmann and Kingman. Which is of course biased, since people compare a stock Tippmann to that of a dual-regulated Autococker. You slap a Stabilizer or Sidewinder on your average Spyder and then bolt on that Max-flo. You're going to see the same consistency over the chronograph as you would said 'Cocker or Timmy.

So you have barrel to paint match, along with that… there's consistency. Well as we've covered blowbacks can be just as consistent as completely electropneumatic markers. So consistency isn't even something to worry about as long as you have a well-regulated gas system.

Your main concern, honestly, is what your budget is and what feels good in your hands. So don't ask people here what you want. Half the time you will get a biased answer any ways, they'll plug the product they own themselves due to a personal love towards their favorite company. Your average Imp owner will say, "Get an Imp, not a Timmy. The Intimidator is too long." Which as we all know is really bullcrap, but they say it any ways. You'll get those types of posts which you really don't want or need.

So again. It's ALL personal preference. Grab and purchase the marker you prefer, that you like, that balances best in your hand, that you can actually hit what you aim at! Because that is all that matters. That you HIT what you AIM at. If you can do that, no matter what marker you have, you will be happy. Even if it's just a simple PGP pump pistol. If you can use a 98Custom with a double trigger and hit everything you aim at. Who is anybody else to tell you it's not good enough for you and that it's bad? Exactly!



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Old 05-12-2005, 11:25 PM #3
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Old 05-16-2005, 09:19 AM #4
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Old 05-24-2005, 01:49 PM #5
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Old 06-09-2005, 06:09 PM #6
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Old 06-13-2005, 07:12 PM #7
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Old 06-26-2005, 03:39 PM #8
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Old 07-13-2005, 11:26 AM #9
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Old 07-14-2005, 01:18 AM #10
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Old 07-14-2005, 04:46 PM #11
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Have you ever even shot an Ion? They are not bad markers. The only thing the omen really has over the Ion is 25 bps. But other then that, you basically get the same performance out of them. So next time, don't reply to something you can't even relate to.
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Old 07-29-2005, 10:49 PM #14
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Both stock, the Omen is better.
How about Wrath with delrin bolt, new barrel, ASA, and torp reg VS Omen 2.0 with CCM feedneck and a new trigger.
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How about Wrath with delrin bolt, new barrel, ASA, and torp reg VS Omen 2.0 with CCM feedneck and a new trigger.
I would still say the Omen since the 2.0 Omen already comes with an ASA, a good barrel, and the second best reg.
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